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Old May 24, 2013, 3:38 am
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According to EF, these are the MCTs for MSP:

For DL-DL connections:
D-D: 30 minutes
D-I: 35 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 15 minutes (30 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)
I-I: 1 hour 15 minutes (35 minutes if coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, 1 hour if coming from a Canadian airport without preclearance)

Generic online and offline connection times:
D-D: 40 minutes
D-I: 40 minutes
I-D: 1 hour
I-I: 1 hour

Between DL and another carrier: 3 hours 30 minutes
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Old Oct 23, 2016, 9:27 pm
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If you are reasonably mobile you can make any connection at MSP in this time.
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Old Oct 23, 2016, 11:51 pm
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At MSP, international long haul flights usually use low G gates, especially in in the G1 through G6 area, but I've seen some low G gates used for departures too.
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Originally Posted by huskerchad
If you are reasonably mobile you can make any connection at MSP in this time.
55 minutes actual connection time, probably. 35-45 minutes, however, can be a lot more of a struggle if the tram is down and you've got gate-checked hand-bags to claim at MSP. I've done a lot of very short connections at MSP, but some of the shortest ones required a very real run on the pace of a 6-7 minute mile or even faster. With 35-45 minute connections, when coming into MSP on mainline but connecting onto a regional jet by DL commuter line partners or (more so) the opposite, there are some such connections that haven't been made by the reasonably mobile.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
55 minutes actual connection time, probably. 35-45 minutes, however, can be a lot more of a struggle if the tram is down and you've got gate-checked hand-bags to claim at MSP. I've done a lot of very short connections at MSP, but some of the shortest ones required a very real run on the pace of a 6-7 minute mile or even faster. With 35-45 minute connections, when coming into MSP on mainline but connecting onto a regional jet by DL commuter line partners or (more so) the opposite, there are some such connections that haven't been made by the reasonably mobile.
OP is arriving from LAX, so it won't be a RJ.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
OP is arriving from LAX, so it won't be a RJ.
Yes. But I was responding to a post about any connection at MSP.
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 11:36 am
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Most of my west coast to MSP flights have arrived early (prevailiing westerly winds). That said, if there's a mechanical or weather delay, then you might have a problem.

I always book a longer layover - - preferably 3 or 4 hours - - before a TA flight - - with 2 hours being the bare minimum - - but usually everything is on time.

So you can hang at the Skyclub (with that amount of time you can hang at the C concourse Skyclub, and not the bright white barn at F), or hit that excellent salad/hot food bar in the lower G concourse, or play some pinball.

If you have the time, take it !
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Old Oct 24, 2016, 12:28 pm
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There's also the newish PP lounge at MSP.

If flights don't seem to be packed, a tight connection to the early MSP-AMS flight would be OK.
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Old Oct 26, 2016, 2:27 am
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Is AMS your destination or are you connecting with KLM? If so or if you're on the last MSP-AMS nonstop of day, I'd worry a bit if arriving a day late would be particularly bad for you.

However, there are two or three, depending on the season and adding a fourth KLM operated one next summer, MSP-AMS nonstops daily.

In fact, even if you're going to AMS, DL has a year round late daily MSP-LHR flight departing around 10 pm (after the last AMS flight, usually by a couple hours). However, at LHR you now must change terminals to connect between DL and SkyTeam partner's such as AF and KLM.

Yet another possibility during part of the year is the late AF operated MSP-CDG flight. Unfortunately the year round DL MSP-CDG flight leaves too early to be very useful as a backup for missed TATL
connections.

BTW, MSP in the evening tends not to be crowded at all. Congestion won't prevent you from running to the gate. By contrast, during the morning, you can lose a lot of time trying to get around people when
you're attempting to walk with purpose in the main airside commercial area or in concourses G and especially F, which doesn't have moving walkways either.

As always, look for an electric cart and tip for a quick nonstop ride.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Is AMS your destination or are you connecting with KLM? If so or if you're on the last MSP-AMS nonstop of day, I'd worry a bit if arriving a day late would be particularly bad for you.

However, there are two or three, depending on the season and adding a fourth KLM operated one next summer, MSP-AMS nonstops daily.

In fact, even if you're going to AMS, DL has a year round late daily MSP-LHR flight departing around 10 pm (after the last AMS flight, usually by a couple hours). However, at LHR you now must change terminals to connect between DL and SkyTeam partner's such as AF and KLM.

Yet another possibility during part of the year is the late AF operated MSP-CDG flight. Unfortunately the year round DL MSP-CDG flight leaves too early to be very useful as a backup for missed TATL
connections.

BTW, MSP in the evening tends not to be crowded at all. Congestion won't prevent you from running to the gate. By contrast, during the morning, you can lose a lot of time trying to get around people when
you're attempting to walk with purpose in the main airside commercial area or in concourses G and especially F, which doesn't have moving walkways either.

As always, look for an electric cart and tip for a quick nonstop ride.
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 3:18 pm
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Apologies for resurrecting an old thread...

I'm looking for advice for connection through MSP.

I have an upcoming trip arriving into MSP on a domestic AA flight, connecting to a domestic DL flight 87mins later.
The complication is that I will have checked baggage... Last time I made this trip a couple of years ago I was able to get AA to interline the baggage, but I understand that this is no longer possible.

Is 87min a realistic connection time given the need to collect and re-check a bag? I'm TSA Pre eligible, so hopefully this is in my favour!

Any advice/tips?
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Originally Posted by Friederich
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread...

I'm looking for advice for connection through MSP.

I have an upcoming trip arriving into MSP on a domestic AA flight, connecting to a domestic DL flight 87mins later.
The complication is that I will have checked baggage... Last time I made this trip a couple of years ago I was able to get AA to interline the baggage, but I understand that this is no longer possible.

Is 87min a realistic connection time given the need to collect and re-check a bag? I'm TSA Pre eligible, so hopefully this is in my favour!

Any advice/tips?
Unless something has changed security at MSP is a nightmare, regardless of the line. You'll arrive on E and depending where your DL flight is to could depart out of any of the other Concourses. Add in waiting for bags, getting up to checkin, waiting in line, clearing security and then possibly needing to make it all the way to A or B Concourses. AA also isn't know for its OTP.
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 5:01 pm
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Thanks for the quick reply flyerCO. I suspected this could be a challenge...

Interesting that EF lists I MCT as 60min, that sounds similarly challenging!
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 5:18 pm
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South Checkpoint temporary changes

For an indeterminate time (maybe 3 weeks?) South Checkpoint (near F&G concourses) will close around 7PM for some construction work. North Checkpoint, which usually closes at 6:45PM, will remain open.

The notice I received said 7PM for the closing each night. When I was there on Sunday, the first night of the change, South closed at 7:45.
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Friederich
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread...

I'm looking for advice for connection through MSP.

I have an upcoming trip arriving into MSP on a domestic AA flight, connecting to a domestic DL flight 87mins later.
The complication is that I will have checked baggage... Last time I made this trip a couple of years ago I was able to get AA to interline the baggage, but I understand that this is no longer possible.

Is 87min a realistic connection time given the need to collect and re-check a bag? I'm TSA Pre eligible, so hopefully this is in my favour!

Any advice/tips?
This would be two separate tickets, I assume? Also, you'll have tickets that aren't refundable or have change penalties, right?

IMO a lot depends on how quickly AA delivers luggage. With no status, you could face some lines to check in or drop your bag with DL.

More importantly, there can be bad lines at MSP for PreCheck.

The bottom line is that this is a big risk, although it's not impossible if everything goes well.
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Old Jan 12, 2017, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
This would be two separate tickets, I assume? Also, you'll have tickets that aren't refundable or have change penalties, right?

IMO a lot depends on how quickly AA delivers luggage. With no status, you could face some lines to check in or drop your bag with DL.

More importantly, there can be bad lines at MSP for PreCheck.

The bottom line is that this is a big risk, although it's not impossible if everything goes well.
It would have to be two tickets. AA and DL don't interline anymore. They shouldn't show up on the same ticket stock even if issued by a carrier (say UA) that interlines with both. If IRROPS happens then DL or AA wouldn't be able to reissue a ticket.
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