Delta Announcing Changes to Status Qualification
#421




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,118
Here's something interesting: On DL's news hub, they actually put the phrase "earned status" in the same sentence where they explain the 100,000 MQM extension.
https://news.delta.com/delta-shares-...oyalty-program
"And customers who have MQM Rollover balances over 100,000 will be given special offers to extend their earned 2024 Status—one year for each 100K Rollover MQMs."
Anyone care to guess what "extend their earned 2024 status" means? I can read it either way, so I'm not sure it provides any clarity. The only thing it tells me for certain is that DL is making the distinction that the 2024 status must be earned.
https://news.delta.com/delta-shares-...oyalty-program
"And customers who have MQM Rollover balances over 100,000 will be given special offers to extend their earned 2024 Status—one year for each 100K Rollover MQMs."
Anyone care to guess what "extend their earned 2024 status" means? I can read it either way, so I'm not sure it provides any clarity. The only thing it tells me for certain is that DL is making the distinction that the 2024 status must be earned.
#422




Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: DL DM; DL AMEX Reserve; HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,991
Here's something interesting: On DL's news hub, they actually put the phrase "earned status" in the same sentence where they explain the 100,000 MQM extension.
https://news.delta.com/delta-shares-...oyalty-program
"And customers who have MQM Rollover balances over 100,000 will be given special offers to extend their earned 2024 Statusone year for each 100K Rollover MQMs."
Anyone care to guess what "extend their earned 2024 status" means? I can read it either way, so I'm not sure it provides any clarity. The only thing it tells me for certain is that DL is making the distinction that the 2024 status must be earned.
https://news.delta.com/delta-shares-...oyalty-program
"And customers who have MQM Rollover balances over 100,000 will be given special offers to extend their earned 2024 Statusone year for each 100K Rollover MQMs."
Anyone care to guess what "extend their earned 2024 status" means? I can read it either way, so I'm not sure it provides any clarity. The only thing it tells me for certain is that DL is making the distinction that the 2024 status must be earned.
#423



Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: VPS
Programs: IHG Platinum, Delta SM, Atmos Silver, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 8,168
I figure I’ll keep the SkyMiles Platinum for now and put just enough on it to hit GM in 2025 and SM in 2026 (I feel like even a little status is better than no status). And to make that happen, I only have to put maybe a third of the spend on the card that I’ve done this year, with a lot of that on bonus categories- I find the hotel bonus to be useful for my travel needs when I’m not staying in a Hilton (where I have a co-branded card) and the grocery bonus is also useful to me. The rest of my annual credit card spend will go elsewhere- I’m still kicking around scenarios for that.
#424

Join Date: May 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA LT PLT, DL 1MM, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 210
I hope I'm wrong about this view.
#425



Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: DL DM+(segs)/MM, UA Ag, Hilton DM, Marriott Ti (life Pt), TSA Opt-out Platinum
Posts: 3,366
Six months after they introduced it, and then retreated and brought back "Classic" Coke, New Coke accounted for only 3% of sales. There's a reason they pivoted, just like DL did. Both were avoidable had they understood their customer's behaviors. Coke actually did focus groups, but just didn't ask the right questions, or perform the right taste tests. It's not clear if DL even tried to do that...
#426




Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LAX
Programs: DL DM, 2 MM; OW Emerald; MVP Gold 100k;Marriott/SPG LTPlat; HH Diamond
Posts: 975
Pretty sure that the firs 2 years (2020/2021) was full benefits, then 2022 they extended status but had to earn status to get the CB. If customers were unhappy that they were losing their MQM stash that they intended to use for status with benefits, then what would be the point of extending it without them? I'm not disagreeing that there is some precedent, but without clarification, I'm not going to jump through hoops now through year end to advance my status to next level for nothing. More and more it looks like I'll be choosing the RDM's. I should end with about 300k net.
#427




Join Date: May 2005
Location: Franche Comt, FR, Atlanta, USA
Programs: DL DM-3MM, BA Gold, A3 Gold, AF Plat
Posts: 641
Or: We're EXTENDING your earned/existing status. You got your benefits already and that same status--which you earned previously and for which you've gotten the CBs already--is being extended. And all you have to do is give up 100k MQMs. That's "cheaper" than the 125K MQMs + MQDs that you previously needed, so we're not giving you CBs during the extension period. If you don't like that, then you can convert those same 100K MQMs into MQDs and earn your status again and get CBs.
I hope I'm wrong about this view.
I hope I'm wrong about this view.
#428




Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,598
Pretty sure that the firs 2 years (2020/2021) was full benefits, then 2022 they extended status but had to earn status to get the CB. If customers were unhappy that they were losing their MQM stash that they intended to use for status with benefits, then what would be the point of extending it without them? I'm not disagreeing that there is some precedent, but without clarification, I'm not going to jump through hoops now through year end to advance my status to next level for nothing. More and more it looks like I'll be choosing the RDM's. I should end with about 300k net.
#429




Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 204
#430




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,118
#431




Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAS, MPL
Programs: DL Platinum, 1 MM
Posts: 1,405
This sentence by itself qualifies as a grammatical emergency: "Members can choose (i.e. buy with their choice benefit currency) complimentary medallion status." By that logic I bought myself a good number of complimentary bottles of wine in my lifetime.
#433




Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL DM, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 9,809
Have to admit it worked on me
As DL is my secondary, I know Im not as invested in the program as many of you here are.
But I just got a biz DL Amex Plat in July, and after the changes were announced last month, was going to dump it before my renewal date next year.
But today I decided to go ahead with an upgrade offer to the Reserve, so I guess this weeks announcement worked on me.
(I know I could have gotten a new card, but Im already close to my Amex credit card max and I really didnt want to open another account right now.)
But I just got a biz DL Amex Plat in July, and after the changes were announced last month, was going to dump it before my renewal date next year.
But today I decided to go ahead with an upgrade offer to the Reserve, so I guess this weeks announcement worked on me.
(I know I could have gotten a new card, but Im already close to my Amex credit card max and I really didnt want to open another account right now.)
#434
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under an ORD approach path
Programs: DL PM, MM. Coffee isn't a drug, it's a vitamin.
Posts: 12,935
Too little too late. They already laid their cards on the table, we know where they want to get to. I can't trust them to hold at these levels. They'll nickle and dime it each year and take a bit longer to get there.
It would take me 5 more years at my current/anticipated travel and spend levels to hit 2mm and get "complimentary annual platinum". That is a big investment on my part, knowing they will probably pull the rug out from under my feet somewhere along the way. I've already switched to VentureX Visa and I'll downgrade from Reserve to the very lowest Amex card before the end of the year. I'll burn through my miles and book whichever airline gives me the best deal.
It saddens me, the DL people and service is great, but management is not.
It would take me 5 more years at my current/anticipated travel and spend levels to hit 2mm and get "complimentary annual platinum". That is a big investment on my part, knowing they will probably pull the rug out from under my feet somewhere along the way. I've already switched to VentureX Visa and I'll downgrade from Reserve to the very lowest Amex card before the end of the year. I'll burn through my miles and book whichever airline gives me the best deal.
It saddens me, the DL people and service is great, but management is not.
#435
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: Skymiles
Posts: 2
do we really think the $2,500 "head start" is going to last beyond a year or two?
either way, it's further proof that all delta cares about is having the cobrand card, not actually flying
the mm enhancement seemed like a shiny carrot at first, but once that wore off I'm overall unimpressed with these rollbacks
perhaps if delta had not already wasted all of their trust and credibility, I could see these changes as something more than attempting to stop the bleeding while still moving towards the same target, albeit a bit slower, but they have earned getting no benefit of the doubt from me
either way, it's further proof that all delta cares about is having the cobrand card, not actually flying
the mm enhancement seemed like a shiny carrot at first, but once that wore off I'm overall unimpressed with these rollbacks
perhaps if delta had not already wasted all of their trust and credibility, I could see these changes as something more than attempting to stop the bleeding while still moving towards the same target, albeit a bit slower, but they have earned getting no benefit of the doubt from me

