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NotHamSarnie Sep 26, 2022 9:40 am

Also the safety video even tells us that should we want something to make our flight more comfortable, we should not to hesitate to ask!

jetsfan92588 Sep 26, 2022 9:43 am


Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68 (Post 34631673)
let me get this straight: your position is that people should be fired based only on an anoymous report on an internet message board?

I think they're saying the reported behavior in response to OP's reported behavior is worthy of termination. Whether that reported behavior actually occurred is not for the poster you quoted to say, and not really relevant to their statement.

Although, I disagree that the reported behavior should result in termination. Most of the time people just need training, and not just a week-long session one time while they're a trainee, they need training routinely (everyone does for any role or skill).

Allan38103 Sep 26, 2022 10:38 am

I'll be the first to admit that I wasn't there and didn't see exactly what happened. I bet none of the other responders who voiced their opinions were there either.

What if it DIDN'T happen the way everyone thinks?

s0ssos Sep 26, 2022 11:04 am


Originally Posted by Allan38103 (Post 34631926)
I'll be the first to admit that I wasn't there and didn't see exactly what happened. I bet none of the other responders who voiced their opinions were there either.

What if it DIDN'T happen the way everyone thinks?

Then basically social media would cease to exist, courts would never use first-person witnesses (which are just as reliable as Internet posts), and our world would go back to a village of a few hundred people who fish for subsistence.

unitedbusiness Sep 26, 2022 11:15 am


Originally Posted by NotHamSarnie (Post 34631716)
Also the safety video even tells us that should we want something to make our flight more comfortable, we should not to hesitate to ask!

indeed, and that’s what any good pilot says welcoming passengers aboard , along the lines of “our flight attendants are among Delta’s finest and will take real good care of you.”
in fact, even in the current script read by Delta FA’s they say, “we are here to provide you exceptional service …”

So being chided for ringing a call button for a drink request is far from exceptional.

Am I right ?!

readywhenyouare Sep 26, 2022 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68 (Post 34631673)
let me get this straight: your position is that people should be fired based only on an anoymous report on an internet message board?

Of course not based on an internet message board. That's why the OP was told to contact Delta directly about the horrid experience. The crew aren't allowed to just make up rules.

hugolover Sep 26, 2022 1:32 pm

Getting your phone out to record these interactions just inflames the situation further (and in this case would be too late). While travelling in the US, I'd recommend wearing an Axon-style Body cam. I predict it would not only lead to good service but also prove invaluable in those he said/she said situations.

motytrah Sep 26, 2022 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 34631135)
This quote from the article highlights the attitude involved here. It is very sad. I didn't realize that Delta FA's aren't union but I can bet the FA in question didn't vote for that.

The only thing union at Delta is the pilots.

Goodoldflyer Sep 26, 2022 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by smartytravel (Post 34630972)
The FA is question may be a potential danger and should never be allowed in customer service roles.

If the account is accurate, the FA seems to have overreacted. But we've only heard one perspective. And we have no idea how that interaction was perceived by the FA.

WillBarrett_68 Sep 26, 2022 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by smartytravel (Post 34630972)
The FA is question may be a potential danger and should never be allowed in customer service roles.

lol

please elaborate and explain how this one interaction that you only have a partial account of is enough to make this determination (i.e. you need to show this interaction indicates this person is more of a "danger" than a randomly selected FA).

Literally anyone on the plane could be "a potential danger." Gulag for everyone!

DLHubber Sep 26, 2022 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by Goodoldflyer (Post 34631004)
C+ gets you a bigger seat and an expanded drink menu, but not necessarily unlimited alcohol.

Alcohol is obviously never unlimited, but Delta’s own website makes no distinction on alcohol service between FC and C+:

Delta Comfort+ and First Class customers will receive complimentary beer, wine and liquor service.

Stripe Sep 26, 2022 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 34631618)
BTW, those who suggest that the OP should have walked to the galley to get a drink should note that most airlines (including DL and KLM) have a rule (IIRC it's a FAA directive) that (alcoholic, but it also makes sense for hot beverages) can only be served to passengers sitting in their assigned seats.


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 34630984)
In my experience, FAs hate it a lot more when you come and "interrupt" them in the galley.

Personally I generally wait for an FA to be walking by. Sometimes I go to the bathroom and ask afterwards, and whenever I do that they seem very annoyed. I've seen many interviews with FAs where they tell passengers to use the call button instead of coming to the galley.

Never heard of any of this and never experienced it. I have always been happily served out of the galley in mid flight.


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 34630984)
You are flat out incorrect on the rule you made up that you have to wait for the second round of service. That is not a rule in any class.

I never said it was a rule. Just saying what I would do.


Originally Posted by smartytravel (Post 34630972)
The FA is question may be a potential danger and should never be allowed in customer service roles.

Nonsense.


Originally Posted by Adelphos (Post 34630702)
Perhaps the biggest consistent miss of Delta service, IMO, is inconsistent delivery of C+ service. It is marketed as a separate class at purchase, upgraded into, and should be treated as such.


Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 34630457)
Have you ever been in C+? Often times the F flight attendant does come back to serve C+ passengers. And what you even described in your own post describes a better service than coach. So how can you claim it's the same?


Originally Posted by Adelphos (Post 34630971)
I don’t agree with the overall message of this reply - C+ is entitled to complementary alcohol and typically gets the snack basket. That is “better service” by any definition. Again, given the premium of C+ over Economy, “better” service should be expected

I was referring to the delivery of the service, not the specific service elements. In F you get a dedicated FA who is responsible for a relatively small number of pax. And there is an expectation of more attention. DL's website specifically mentions "attentive service" as a feature of first class. I have flown in C+ and occasionally the FA from F will step back to help but I do not expect it.

Goodoldflyer Sep 27, 2022 1:14 am


Originally Posted by DLHubber (Post 34632945)
Alcohol is obviously never unlimited, but Delta’s own website makes no distinction on alcohol service between FC and C+:

Delta Comfort+ and First Class customers will receive complimentary beer, wine and liquor service.

Perhaps, but there is a definite difference between the beverage services in FC and C+, sometimes including different, more experienced staff.

Many of the flights I'm on offer a PDB in First, take drink orders before takeoff, and offer a beverage service, even when these things are not offered in C+ on those flights.

Adelphos Sep 27, 2022 1:29 am

Bottom line, Delta sells C+ as an upgraded cabin relative to economy and promotes complimentary alcohol on those flights. It is reasonable to expect to be able to get more than one drink on the flight. Remember that many C+ customers are also eligible for F upgrades and will be used to being able to get more than one drink. Regardless of the specific mechanism, FAs should expect to be receiving refill requests and serving refills to C+ customers. Remember many C+ flights are four, five, six hours long.

DLHubber Sep 27, 2022 1:30 am


Originally Posted by Goodoldflyer (Post 34633934)
Perhaps, but there is a definite difference between the beverage services in FC and C+, sometimes including different, more experienced staff.

Many of the flights I'm on offer a PDB in First, take drink orders before takeoff, and offer a beverage service, even when these things are not offered in C+ on those flights.

Hey, I’ve flown in FC often enough to know that there’s a marked difference in service over C+. I was just pointing out that as far as I know, Delta doesn’t publish any actual differences.


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