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Status as of 23 Apr 2024

Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business

All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.

Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html

Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html

Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power

Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)…PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)...MC/226 seats (rows 30-55)…for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.

Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)...PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/190 seats (rows 34-55)… for a total of 306 seats. Aircraft designation is 359.

Config of the 3-class cabin (ex-LATAM) is…D1/20 seats (rows 1-5)…C +/63 seats (rows 16-22)…MC/246 seats (rows 23-51)…for an total of 339 seats. Aircraft designation is 35L.

New config of the 4-class cabin starting 06/01/24 is…D1/40 seats (rows 1-11)…PS/40 seats (rows 20-24)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/159 seats (rows 34-51) for a total of 275 seats. Aircraft designation is 35H.

Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk

A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

A350-900: 20/35 delivered (19 in service, 1 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
3520 N520DN Delivered TLS>NRT April 4-5 2023. First aircraft delivered in the latest 35H config...exited NRT-MSP Apr 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...third test flight/first CAF April 23 2024…special “Team USA” livery…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DZ...taxi check April 5 2024...special “2028 LA Olympic Games livery”...delivery spring 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 10 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 24 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.

Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16

A350-900 (35L): 9
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.

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Dec 24, 2017, 11:06 pm

#826

Chadg

Join Date: Jul 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kjnangre

Is DL using an A350 for LAS?

Only because of the CES conference that week in Vegas. DL is also adding flights to NRT, AMS, CDG and other domestic cities, but only ICN gets the A350.

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Dec 26, 2017, 11:36 am

#827

Croptop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shimps1

How's the view out the window from the even window seats? I know it's farther away from the window, but how uncomfortable is it to lean and look out the window?

Along with that, are the seats all the same width? Or would the odd seats be a little wider since they are farther from the aisle as well?

Ok. I'm sitting in 4A right now and I've got to say that if you are a window gazer, you definitely want an odd numbered seat. Looking out the window with the seat by the aisle is not the greatest. The ledge is wide enough that it'll get pretty uncomfortable trying to lean over it.

Thank goodness I've got 3A for the return home.

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Dec 27, 2017, 1:35 pm

#828

shimps1

Join Date: Nov 2016

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Croptop

Thanks! Any noticeable difference in width, or maybe psychological width, between even and odd seats? Thinking aisle might feel narrower since the aisle might make you feel like you have to keep your arm tucked in close.

Dec 27, 2017, 2:11 pm

#829

minnyfly

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kjnangre

If I'm not mistaken, pilots are not allowed to switch back and forth between 747 and A350; once they fly (or maybe even train) on an A350, they can't fly the 747 anymore. If that's true (I'm not certain) then I think that's why DL is struggling to staff both fleets (hence the cancellation/rescheduling of the last 747 DTW-ICN when a pilot got sick). Once the 747s are out of the fleet, crew availability will be better, I hope.

You have the gist of it, correct. They cannot switch back and forth without a re-training process. And it's that way between most planes types. All airlines, but specifically DL, are dealing with many moving parts among pilots. Right now there's hundreds of pilots every year hitting the mandatory retirement age of 65. Combine that with regular hiring and pilots moving on, and there's quick seniority changes these days. That affects what planes and routes the pilot can bid for, and whether or not it's a captain's position or first officer. There's also adding and subtracting of plane types, and here DL is at a disadvantage with their fleet of many different types. All those factors are creating a high amount of movement with pilots, and that means a lot of training time--time not in the cockpit flying passengers. In this case DL didn't plan well enough to ensure pilots would be available for all planned A350 flights. It's not they don't have the pilots available. They certainly do, but somehow they failed in having enough trained pilots in time. A good possibility is that DL is trying to run a very lean ship along the pilots ranks to minimize pilot downtime/added costs, but this time it was too lean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croptop

That's too bad, especially since for some reason DL went with only 3 seats close to the window and 4 seats along the aisle per side. For a window user like me, there's only 6 good seats in the cabin then.

Last edited by minnyfly; Dec 27, 2017 at 2:16 pm

Dec 27, 2017, 6:31 pm

#830

Gabrca

Join Date: Jan 2013

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Any confirmation that the front row (1 B/C and 2 A/D) have a larger footwell?

Dec 30, 2017, 5:49 pm

#831

wwu11

Join Date: Dec 2016

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Posts: 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabrca

Any confirmation that the front row (1 B/C and 2 A/D) have a larger footwell?

I've read that only 2A/D have the larger footwells, forgot exactly where but i remember hearing it from 2 separate sources. I've book the 2A seat on my Jan 18 flight as well.

Jan 3, 2018, 9:39 pm

#832

Gabrca

Join Date: Jan 2013

Posts: 319

Hi All,

Just flew DTW-NRT on the A350 in Delta One.

Some initial impressions:

WOW! Having travelled in J extensively, this was easily the most spacious business class seat I have travelled in. 2A has more space, storage, and privacy than British Airways First Class.
Try to book 2A or 2D if you can, the footwell is huge, and the seats are still a good distance back from the galley and bathrooms. I’m 6 foot 2 so this is a huge plus.
The doors seemed a bit gimmicky at first, but in fully flat mode, it makes for a really peaceful oasis.
TV screen is huge and great selection
Heavily advertised fast WiFi didn’t work. According to the FAs, this is a known problem with the A350s
Service and food service has been very good, flight attendants seem proud of the aircraft.

Any other questions feel free to reach out.

Jan 4, 2018, 5:48 am

#833

mn1429

Join Date: Dec 2010

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im flying DTW-ICN tomorrow in 24j. I’m excited to experience this new class of seating.

Jan 4, 2018, 1:19 pm

#834

LonghaulCommuter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwu11

I've read that only 2A/D have the larger footwells, forgot exactly where but i remember hearing it from 2 separate sources. I've book the 2A seat on my Jan 18 flight as well.

I just flew NRT-DTW in 5A. I chose the seat based on the numerous reviews and I'm glad I did. I would avoid the front rows like the plague. There's a lot of activity in the galleys and the toilets make a lot of noise locking, unlocking, and the opening and closing of the doors. The plane is really quite quiet in D1 at cruising speed so those sharp sounds are even more annoying. If you're a light sleeper and want to sleep, don't choose the first three rows at all. Oh, it was a bad idea to eliminate the luggage bins over the middle seats. The more "open" feel is not really a plus and the two young men across from me kept opening and closing the bin above my head throughout the flight and when I was trying to sleep (what the heck was their problem!), They got on before me and filled up the bins around my seat. The guy in seat 4A got on late and he threw a fit with the FAs because there was no bin space anywhere near his seat. I always liked to throw my bedding in the OH space until I need it on other D1 configurations. Couldn't do that on this flight. That bedding took up a lot of space in my cubicle. I actually felt pretty crowded in there.

This is my second A350 flight and I have to say that the FAs seem much more stressed compared with FAs of my many flights on the 747 upper deck. Overall, the upper deck experience is much better than A350 D1 suites. I will miss the Queen of the Skies.

Jan 4, 2018, 4:53 pm

#835

wwu11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LonghaulCommuter

How big were the foot wells in 5A? I am locked in 2A for my first leg but have choice between 2D and a few other odd number seats on return trip. I prefer large footwells so I can maneuver better when I sleep. Yea thats troublesome with the lack of space I also prefer to put bedding in the overheads

Jan 4, 2018, 5:07 pm

#836

Gabrca

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwu11

I noticed no significant noise from 2A, it’s set back from the galley a good distance unlike row one center. See photo below. the footwell was a good 50% larger from my uneducated guess. With the door closed it was great and insane privacy for biz.

In regards to the overhead bins I did notice similar to the poster above that they tended to get quite full with the elimination of the center bins. That being said there was enough storage for my things in the suite that I didn’t need to access it all flight. Stored my bedding in the gap between the consel by the window. Would definitely be annoying if someone were accessing all flight. But that hasn’t happened to me on any airline that has also eliminated overheads In the center in my flights, so hopefully would be the exception.

Jan 4, 2018, 5:56 pm

#837

LonghaulCommuter

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I think my experience was probably atypical because of traveling during the holidays. It seems everyone had a roll-aboard plus a big bag or backpack in D1 (me, just a briefcase). Also, not typical to have twenty-something buddies across the aisle who didn't sleep at all and working on God-knows-what (maybe the next big startup?). Here, the door made a difference but not when they would open and close the OH bin. On other D1 flights, being near the toilets made it impossible for me to sleep. If you're a deep sleeper, it should not be an issue. The new AVOD system is spectacular though. Clear and sharp pictures and as responsive as an iPhone. Still miss the upper deck.

Jan 4, 2018, 6:09 pm

#838

Gabrca

Join Date: Jan 2013

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LonghaulCommuter

Still miss the upper deck.

I agree on this one. I’ve mainly done BA 747 this year and it’s still something special.

On another note re: DTW-NRT ... on this 13 hour daytime flight, every single window shade was closed for the duration of the flight. I get people’s need to sleep, but for a flight that covers waking hours for the majority of the plane it was dissapointing to not be able to have the windows open and enjoy some daylight.

Jan 17, 2018, 11:17 am

#839

audidudi

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The sixth delivered A350, N506DN, has finished induction at ATL, and is ferrying to DTW today, prior to entering service this week.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9755

Also, DL begins A350 service from DTW>PEK today, initially alternating with the A332.

Jan 17, 2018, 9:41 pm

#840

DeltaFan4Now

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Can anyone comment on the comfort and seat cushion in 40A/J? Is it considered an exit row with respect to scant cushion and narrow seat?