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Old Jun 20, 17, 7:21 pm
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Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business

All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.

Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html

Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html

Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power

Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...MC/226 seats for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.

Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...C+/36 seats...MC/190 seats for a total of 306 seats.

Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk

A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

A350-900: 19/35 delivered (19 in service, 0 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…then ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
MSN 654 3520 N520DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.

Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/22:
2023 0
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16

A350-900 (35L): Induction complete!
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.


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Old Dec 12, 17, 3:52 pm
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The fixed, sunk costs shouldn't really be a concern in a review IMO. Marginal costs, something that would significantly affect the cost of future tickets, that's another story, but the marginal cost for "expensive design process" is effectively zero.
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The fixed, sunk costs shouldn't really be a concern in a review IMO. Marginal costs, something that would significantly affect the cost of future tickets, that's another story, but the marginal cost for "expensive design process" is effectively zero.
Agreed, and certainly to call it a "con" because someone doesn't want to use that feature is ridiculous. That's like saying the baggage hold on the A350 is a con because I only travel with carry-on bags.
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N504DN and N505DN are now both at MSP being prepared for induction to service. N506DN is scheduled to be delivered and fly from TLS>ATL on Dec. 23rd. Busy times for new aircraft deliveries!
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Originally Posted by audidudi
N504DN and N505DN are now both at MSP being prepared for induction to service. N506DN is scheduled to be delivered and fly from TLS>ATL on Dec. 23rd. Busy times for new aircraft deliveries!
I guess DL was good this year. Lots of Christmas presents. I should ask Santa for an A350 also
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The fourth one, ship #3504, N504DN, is currently en route from MSP>DTW, and therefore should be entering service soon.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N504DN
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What was the reason for the swap to the 744? Did they say? I can't find any explanation.
Airbus is delivering the aircraft ahead of schedule. This requires Delta to send line check airman to Toulouse for the acceptance flights and to ferry aircraft home. They had to pull those pilots off other flights.
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Per The Points Guy it looks like the 7th route will be LAX-PVG!^

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/12/new...route-to-asia/

He brings up a good point with 20 hours in between flights that seems like a good opportunity for a round trip transcon (or close to it) flight. Perhaps if not LAX-JFK maybe either ATL or DTW.

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Originally Posted by mattya9
Per The Points Guy it looks like the 7th route will be LAX-PVG!^

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/12/new...route-to-asia/

He brings up a good point with 20 hours in between flights that seems like a good opportunity for a round trip transcon (or close to it) flight. Perhaps if not LAX-JFK maybe either ATL or DTW.

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Not a surprise as I had it as one of top three most likely future A350 routes, the other two being ATL-NRT and SEA-HKG. I still expect ATL-NRT to go A350 at some point. SEA-HKG may end up staying as a 777 long term but its definitely not going back to the A330-200 as those are being moved to LHR routes.
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Originally Posted by Jeff767
Airbus is delivering the aircraft ahead of schedule. This requires Delta to send line check airman to Toulouse for the acceptance flights and to ferry aircraft home. They had to pull those pilots off other flights.
Deliveries were on schedule. DL simply didn't get enough pilots trained in time.
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Originally Posted by Longboater
Not a surprise as I had it as one of top three most likely future A350 routes, the other two being ATL-NRT and SEA-HKG. I still expect ATL-NRT to go A350 at some point. SEA-HKG may end up staying as a 777 long term but its definitely not going back to the A330-200 as those are being moved to LHR routes.
What about SYD?
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Originally Posted by minnyfly
Deliveries were on schedule. DL simply didn't get enough pilots trained in time.
Deliveries have been early and there will be 6 aircraft delivered by 31 Dec instead of 5.
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Originally Posted by nichojo
What about SYD?
The aircraft could definitely do the route, however, Delta appears to be keeping the 777-200LRs on its longest routes for the extra lift. Delta longest routes, ATL-JNB/ATL-PVG/LAX-SYD, will likely stay 77L until they leave the fleet. I expect Delta will launch/resume another ULH route, 7500 miles and longer, route sooner versus later as more A350s are delivered and replace 777 routes. Thinking Delta will resume DTW-HKG or launch LAX-BNE/MEL within the next two years.
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Originally Posted by Jeff767
Deliveries have been early and there will be 6 aircraft delivered by 31 Dec instead of 5.
6 were always anticipated in 2017. In fact deliveries might be a tick slow, as four were needed for today's original schedule (the 747 was subbed in), and the fourth just left MSP induction yesterday. The 5th is in induction, and the 6th is scheduled for delivery late this week.

The problem all along has been a lack of trained pilots.
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Originally Posted by minnyfly
6 were always anticipated in 2017. In fact deliveries might be a tick slow, as four were needed for today's original schedule (the 747 was subbed in), and the fourth just left MSP induction yesterday. The 5th is in induction, and the 6th is scheduled for delivery late this week.

The problem all along has been a lack of trained pilots.
At one point this year it became five due to previous Airbus delays. The first A350-900 was supposed to be delivered in May and ended up being delivered in July. Airbus just got in the sixth A350-900 before the end of the year. It won't enter service until around the middle of January. Right now, Delta is projected to have 11 delivered by the beginning of July. Just check the LAX-PVG schedule. The A350-900 alternates with the 777-200LR effective July 2 before going all A350-900 effective July 18. That's the same time Delta expects to have 11 A350-900s in service and just in time for the 777-200LR to launch ATL-PVG, in addition to undergoing much needed cabin modifications that begin in February.
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The aircraft could definitely do the route, however, Delta appears to be keeping the 777-200LRs on its longest routes for the extra lift. Delta longest routes, ATL-JNB/ATL-PVG/LAX-SYD, will likely stay 77L until they leave the fleet. I expect Delta will launch/resume another ULH route, 7500 miles and longer, route sooner versus later as more A350s are delivered and replace 777 routes. Thinking Delta will resume DTW-HKG or launch LAX-BNE/MEL within the next two years.
That's what I thought. Hope they refit it soon!
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