Rumor: 747 B/E seat reduction
Apr 11, 2014, 1:36 pm
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The topic has been discussed here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...reduction.html
Although that thread is now closed...
The topic has been discussed here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...reduction.html
Although that thread is now closed...
Apr 11, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Source?
Also: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...reduction.html
ETA: Dang, java beat me to it. Though...do we know why that thread got closed? A 30-second scan didn't make the reason obvious. Not questioning the mods, more wondering if perhaps the rumor has actually been confirmed and there's some other thread I'm missing.
Also: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...reduction.html
ETA: Dang, java beat me to it. Though...do we know why that thread got closed? A 30-second scan didn't make the reason obvious. Not questioning the mods, more wondering if perhaps the rumor has actually been confirmed and there's some other thread I'm missing.
Apr 11, 2014, 2:17 pm
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At first I thought it was just a random rumor with not much behind it. Now getting multiple people all saying the same thing (i.e. pilots being informed about the change). Seems like the EC upper deck might be reality.
Apr 11, 2014, 2:26 pm
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Are there more BE seats going on the bottom level?
Apr 11, 2014, 2:34 pm
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Apr 11, 2014, 5:37 pm
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I am not a moderator so I don't know for sure these are the reasons. This is only based on what I've seen in the thread and the posts that got deleted (which I saw before they were deleted).
Apr 11, 2014, 5:47 pm
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I am not a moderator so I don't know for sure these are the reasons. This is only based on what I've seen in the thread and the posts that got deleted (which I saw before they were deleted).
I haven't seen anything else that looks any more confirmed than the original thread...
Apr 11, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Might not be anything new to add - but EVERY SINGLE 747 pilot crew I fly with says it's happening. Waiting to hear the official word but in the mean time I ask every trip and hear the same thing. Where there is smoke, there's fire….
Apr 11, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Why would they inform the pilots about this first? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't understand why pilots need to know about this change. Is it related to crew rest or something like that?
Apr 11, 2014, 7:18 pm
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Perhaps with rotating planes out for mods they will he working on different equipment?
Apr 11, 2014, 8:10 pm
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or because ALPA as input on this mod due to crew rest and other factors. I don't know but I can say the pilots have received a communication on this possible change, whereas the flight attendants (non union) have not.
Apr 11, 2014, 8:10 pm
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Who at DL would be interested and empowered to know that I spend extra money and have gone out of my way to select routes that would get me the 744 UD?
Apr 11, 2014, 8:33 pm
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I am the Delta B747 captain that started this post. The rumor started as a result of a bulletin that was sent to B747 pilots. Time frame for swap out of seats is this summer. I was told by another B747 captain that the actual number of seats on the upper deck was going to be 66 economy comfort.
The reason that the flight crews are upset is because 4 1/2 times more people on the upper deck means more noise, less chance to obtain quality crew rest for the landing crew, and a harder time gaining access to the cockpit. From a security stand point, it increases the risk of a cockpit intrusion. Unfortunately this decision is driven by marketing, not security or the wishes of our High Value customers.
The reason that the flight crews are upset is because 4 1/2 times more people on the upper deck means more noise, less chance to obtain quality crew rest for the landing crew, and a harder time gaining access to the cockpit. From a security stand point, it increases the risk of a cockpit intrusion. Unfortunately this decision is driven by marketing, not security or the wishes of our High Value customers.
Apr 11, 2014, 8:41 pm
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Xeno, and others, I would encourage you all to write to Delta and voice your opinion. It might not help, but it can't hurt. I am a delta FA and I am very upset about this prospect. Not because it would make my job harder ( because UD is still a nice place to work, regardless) but because i know how much our HVCs value the UD.) I have stated on the other thread that this is a very real possibility but as far as I know (and maybe Southern242 can elaborate) the memo states it is a possibility - not that it has been decided. At least that was the last I saw.
Maybe it's not too late to let your voices be heard.
Maybe it's not too late to let your voices be heard.