Jan 10, 2014, 3:20 pm
Last edit by: bgriff
Summary of Changes and Frequently Asked Questions
These changes are effective May 1, 2014
This topic is a prime candidate for Wikipost. Let's see if we can't pull one together incorporating the details of the changes, as well as DLCorpGirl's responses to some of our questions.
SkyClub membership has been split into two tiers: Executive and Individual.
Executive members may guest two individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) without additional charge. Executive members may guest up to 2 additional individuals for $29 each per visit.
Individual members must pay for all guests. Individual members may guest up to 2 individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) for $29 each per visit.
Lifetime Memberships will be converted to Lifetime Executive Memberships, per DLCorpGal.
30 Day Skyclub Pass - this has been discontinued per Delta contacts.
American Express Delta Reserve and American Express Platinum or Centurion Card (not American Express Delta Platinum co-branded credit card, but American Express non-branded Platinum Charge Card) members may guest up to 2 individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) for $29 each per visit.
The fee for the Delta Gold American Express and Delta Platinum American Express cardmembers will increase to $29 per visit, per DLCorpGal.
Diamond Medallions may upgrade to an Executive Membership as a Choice Benefit or by using miles or cash to pay the difference. No confirmation on miles, but the cash difference is confirmed to be $145 if done by 3/1/15 per DLCorpGal. NOTE: Diamond Medallions have Executive Membership until 2/28/15. After this date, they will have Individual Membership by default.
Alaska Board Room membership is a workaround as of 1/15/14 for $450 1 year - $1050 3 years and includes 2 guests FREE or family. Note, however, that the AS/DL relationship isn't as good as it used to be and there's no guarantee that the Board Room/SkyClub reciprocity relationship will continue as it currently exists. -- As of February 2015 AS club membership no longer includes guests at Delta lounges.
These changes are effective May 1, 2014
This topic is a prime candidate for Wikipost. Let's see if we can't pull one together incorporating the details of the changes, as well as DLCorpGirl's responses to some of our questions.
SkyClub membership has been split into two tiers: Executive and Individual.
Executive members may guest two individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) without additional charge. Executive members may guest up to 2 additional individuals for $29 each per visit.
Individual members must pay for all guests. Individual members may guest up to 2 individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) for $29 each per visit.
Lifetime Memberships will be converted to Lifetime Executive Memberships, per DLCorpGal.
30 Day Skyclub Pass - this has been discontinued per Delta contacts.
American Express Delta Reserve and American Express Platinum or Centurion Card (not American Express Delta Platinum co-branded credit card, but American Express non-branded Platinum Charge Card) members may guest up to 2 individuals, or immediate family (spouse + children under 21) for $29 each per visit.
The fee for the Delta Gold American Express and Delta Platinum American Express cardmembers will increase to $29 per visit, per DLCorpGal.
Diamond Medallions may upgrade to an Executive Membership as a Choice Benefit or by using miles or cash to pay the difference. No confirmation on miles, but the cash difference is confirmed to be $145 if done by 3/1/15 per DLCorpGal. NOTE: Diamond Medallions have Executive Membership until 2/28/15. After this date, they will have Individual Membership by default.
Alaska Board Room membership is a workaround as of 1/15/14 for $450 1 year - $1050 3 years and includes 2 guests FREE or family. Note, however, that the AS/DL relationship isn't as good as it used to be and there's no guarantee that the Board Room/SkyClub reciprocity relationship will continue as it currently exists. -- As of February 2015 AS club membership no longer includes guests at Delta lounges.
Updates to Delta Sky Club membership Options
Aug 14, 2014, 11:07 am
#1576
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM. 1MM
Posts: 2,045
is the air france lounge in Terminal 2 or TBIT? I've read conflicting reports.
Aug 14, 2014, 3:39 pm
#1577
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,012
That policy (about going to terminals you're not departing from) has changed, recently I believe. About 3 weeks ago I was able to access TBIT with a WN boarding pass. Also, LAX has a lounge operated by KE in TBIT. Not sure that there are any other Skyteam lounges in TBIT.
Aug 14, 2014, 3:42 pm
#1578
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,012
MSPeconomist was talking about your inbound ticket. You hadn't mentioned the return. Of course you'll be able to access the AF lounge in LAX when departing.
Aug 14, 2014, 5:22 pm
#1579
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The other thing that's confusing about the language I posted is whether you can only access at the first connection point to/from your int'l flight, or all previous/subsequent ones on the same continuous itinerary.
So setting aside the same-day question, if you are going AMS-DTW-LAX-ATL-EWR all within the same 24 hours and same calendar day, do you just get access at DTW where your int'l flight lands, or do you also get it at LAX and ATL where both the inbound and outbound flights are domestic?
My limited experience is that you get in at all airports, but I'm not sure if I was just lucky or if that's actually aligned with the policy.
Aug 14, 2014, 6:36 pm
#1580
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,012
I should have added that - it's absolutely worth a shot going to a SC in ATL and showing that you are on a continuation of an int'l itinerary. They very well may let you in - but I really have no idea.
The other thing that's confusing about the language I posted is whether you can only access at the first connection point to/from your int'l flight, or all previous/subsequent ones on the same continuous itinerary.
So setting aside the same-day question, if you are going AMS-DTW-LAX-ATL-EWR all within the same 24 hours and same calendar day, do you just get access at DTW where your int'l flight lands, or do you also get it at LAX and ATL where both the inbound and outbound flights are domestic?
My limited experience is that you get in at all airports, but I'm not sure if I was just lucky or if that's actually aligned with the policy.
The other thing that's confusing about the language I posted is whether you can only access at the first connection point to/from your int'l flight, or all previous/subsequent ones on the same continuous itinerary.
So setting aside the same-day question, if you are going AMS-DTW-LAX-ATL-EWR all within the same 24 hours and same calendar day, do you just get access at DTW where your int'l flight lands, or do you also get it at LAX and ATL where both the inbound and outbound flights are domestic?
My limited experience is that you get in at all airports, but I'm not sure if I was just lucky or if that's actually aligned with the policy.
SkyTeam Elite Plus members, regardless of their travel class, are allowed access to a SkyTeam lounge at a particular airport if traveling on or connecting to/from a same-day international flight operated by a SkyTeam member airline. Simply present your same-day ticket for an international SkyTeam airline flight and a valid Elite Plus membership card.
Aug 15, 2014, 5:23 am
#1581
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MCO
Programs: DL DM/MM, Marriott Plat Premier, HH Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 4,081
They make the distinction between "traveling on" and "connecting to/from" a same-day international flight, which seems to have the spirit of allowing folks on an international itinerary access wherever they are on their itinerary. I'm sure it wasn't written with something like AMS-DTW-LAX-ATL-EWR in mind, but the rules are the rules.
Aug 15, 2014, 5:57 am
#1582
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
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However, as it's stated, if one has an overnight connection, then lounge access isn't included for the connecting flights. So East Coast to SEA, overnight connection, and then early flight SEA to Asia would only allow lounge access after the overnight connection, despite DL apparently wanting to encourage people to use the SEA routes to Asia. The same problem arises with all of the award ticket inventory that uses overnight connections at the international gateway airport.
For long haul international flights, my impression was that the rule is interpreted to mean that you have lounge access for flights on the same day as the departure of the international flight and also the same day as the arrival of the international segment.
IIRC at one time the rule was "within 24 hours" of the international segment (same as the old rule for AmEx Plat/Centurion card lounge access), but again with some ambiguity, although my interpretation was always that "within" meant an entire band of time from 24 hours before departure to 24 hours after arrival.
Oct 16, 2014, 1:33 pm
#1583
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: BOS
Programs: Delta DM, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Plat 100, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Plat, UA Silver, AA Gold
Posts: 99
Anyone have any luck with upgrading? I've been trying to upgrade my membership to Executive, but the Diamond line doesn't have any info.
Nov 11, 2014, 5:34 pm
#1584
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM. 1MM
Posts: 2,045
Flying JFK-SFO this Friday in BE. Confirmed UG already using miles.
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
Nov 11, 2014, 8:04 pm
#1585
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
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Flying JFK-SFO this Friday in BE. Confirmed UG already using miles.
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
Nov 11, 2014, 10:14 pm
#1586
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Flying JFK-SFO this Friday in BE. Confirmed UG already using miles.
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
IIRC the general rule is that you cannot check a bag more than four hours before your scheduled departure, but YMMV. However, at SFO you could take the bag into the land side SC and then leave the lounge to check the bag later.
ADDED: Sorry, I just realized that you're departing from JFK not SFO. At JFK the SCs are airside as is the Oasis replacement PP lounge in T4 now IIRC.
Nov 12, 2014, 9:29 am
#1587
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Minneapolis, originally from Cincinnati
Programs: Diamond with Delta, Hyatt and Hilton. 2 MM and Plat with America (thank you citi:))
Posts: 2,345
Flying JFK-SFO this Friday in BE. Confirmed UG already using miles.
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
I know that I have access to the JFK sky club. Question is how early can I access the SC? With a flight at 4pm I'm planning to work from the SC that day before my flight. Will I be able to gain entry into the SC 7 hours before my flight? also will I be able to check in 1 bag that early before my flight?
Thx
I wouldn't want to spend all day at the SC. Why not SDC into another flight open seats in first?
Nov 12, 2014, 10:48 am
#1588
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM. 1MM
Posts: 2,045
Thanks for comments. perhaps I'll just commute to the airport during lunch break so I don't have to worry about the bag check at a max of 4hrs before flight. I'd hate to get to JFK and be stuck landside until T-4 hours. i will have liquids in my checked bag that will not allow me through security.
Nov 12, 2014, 11:22 am
#1589
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So speaking of SC memberships... any word on if/when the option will be available for DMs to pay the $145 'upgrade' fee to convert the complimentary individual membership to executive?
Nov 12, 2014, 11:25 am
#1590
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Why offer to pay before the transitional complimentary DM executive membership cards expire? I guess there might be concern to get the new card on time, but you can see it on delta.dumb and print a copy easily enough.