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Old Jun 12, 2013, 7:24 pm
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Figured a highly collaborative effort like this needs a wikipost. As items and codes are confirmed, let's centralize them in one place rather than thumb through hundreds of discussion posts.

How to pull your information
Log into your SkyMiles account at Delta.com, then visit this link: https://www.delta.com/databroker/bcdata.action

What the items indicate
v01: Closest airport to home address (encoded using key 1)
v02: Country of residence
v03:
v04: Preferred departure airport/city (encoded using key 2)
v05: Language
v06: discSpndngAmt, in thousands
v07: Skymiles status level
v08: State/province (encoded using key 2)
v09: Pay with Miles eligible
v10: sunTrstInd
v11: prefDestCity
v12: MQS
v13: Hotel loyalty programs stored in DL.com profile (encoded using key 2, see post #829)
v14:
v15: Income, in thousands
v16: Current age + 99
v17: 1/2/3 MM Status
v18: Home value, in thousands
v19:
v20: SkyClub member
v21: SkyMiles account number
v22: Experian Mosaic segment (encoded using keys 1 and 3, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post20913445) Description here and Segment Details here
v23: Saved search destination airports (encoded using key 1)
v24: SkyClub renewal date (coded using key 3)
v25: Saved payment information (encoded using key 1) AND SPG status (encoded using key 1, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post20913463)
v26: Gender/prefix (1=male/Mr, 2=female/Ms/Mrs, 3=Dr/other) (to be confirmed)
v27:
v28: SkyMiles account number with 3 leading zeros (called "CustID" in previous data)
v29: Logged in (SM account)
v30: Customer Value Score (Questionable, and scale is unknown)
v31: RDM balance
v32: Dream trips from DL.com profile (encoded using key 2)
v33: MQM balance
v34: Activities & Interests from DL.com profile
v35:
v36:
v37:
v38:
v39: ?? Duplicate for Language ??
v40: ?? Duplicate for Country of Residence ??

Encoding

Three different coding keys are used for variables 01, 04, 08, 13, 22, 23, 24, 25, and 32. For full mappings, click here: Keys 1, 2, and 3
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerslc
Yes, and I can't imagine the US government would dare collect phone, internet and email data on its citizens without their knowledge.
LOL
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR
My CSV is 2.
DL Plat Amex 30K spend 2012. Plenty of sLUT fares
2012 DL Ticket spend 16K approx. (probably not true MQD)
ZERO award spend on myself - all miles used to bring family over
My alleged CSV is 4
Over 60K spend on a DL Reserve card
About 15K DL ticket spend (not including another $3000 on tickets purchased thru client's travel group)
Very few LUTs.
Minimal award travel.

If award travel is factored in, I guess the implication is that it would be as a decrement?

Should someone willing to pay 300K for a 60K ticket be given a increment in CSV?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
Anyone else have discretionary spending be more than the annual income shown? For me both of the DL profiles I've checked, discretionary income (v06: discSpndngAmt, in thousands) is...sort of within the right range, but is higher than the field for total annual income (v15: Income, in thousands), which leads me to believe that the latter, v15, is not really that and is something else... but what?

Just quite clearly discretinary spending can't be higher than income (well unless one is retired, I guess).
Both of my parents have their v06 higher than v15, but for me its the other way around. Funny thing is my parents earn significantly more than I do and their v06 is lower than me but their v15 is higher, but still nowhere near accurate (by orders of magnitude).
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
There seem to be very few reports of v30 (customer value) here. Would others mind sharing their customer value, and just note briefly the last year ticket $pend, last year award travel booked and last year DL AmEx spend?
My value is "1".

Made a big move in fall of 2012 from DC to Honolulu, so who knows what this considers. Changed address in Delta's system in October, maybe.

2012: probably about $6-8k on Delta on cheap and K fares mostly, travelling twice a month, mostly to ATL and LAX from DCA until my September move. Then like 2013 after the move.

2013: probably about $10k so far on all of the following: cheap, K, B, and FPA fares, travelling once a month, mostly to ATL, SEA, and SFO from HNL

Amex Reserve holder since late 2012, hit $60k in 2012, and I've just hit $60k in 2013.

Made Platinum in December 2012, ultimately based on Reserve spend.

Very little personal award travel, though I'll use miles for upgrades from Hawaii when available. I almost never fly coach to or from Hawaii, whether that's via upgrades or purchased FPA. I'll occasionally use miles to get tickets for my fiancée.

They call me G24. I'm an entrepreneur, so my income is wildly varied from year to year. I probably spend as if I have the income they suggest (low 6 figures).
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:39 pm
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V22 = B08. Babies and Bliss. Close, since there are 7 kids between my wife and I. However, my eldest "baby" is married and about to have a baby of her own and my youngest is already a preteen.

Customer value = 8 (Is that in ham slices?)
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:40 pm
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As the OP I want to say that I'm so thrilled this is back again (albeit in a new format)!
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:43 pm
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Sorry, I'm going to have to ask this...what is PwM?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by skyvanman
Both of my parents have their v06 higher than v15, but for me its the other way around. Funny thing is my parents earn significantly more than I do and their v06 is lower than me but their v15 is higher, but still nowhere near accurate (by orders of magnitude).
Could v15 be defined to include only salary and not other income sources such as various bonuses and stock options, investment income, etc.?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
Sorry, I'm going to have to ask this...what is PwM?
I had to ask someone the same thing

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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:00 pm
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v35

I do not think it is possibly smAmexCntrnInd but maybe not as I have Amex and Y and my wife does not and has Y
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Could v15 be defined to include only salary and not other income sources such as various bonuses and stock options, investment income, etc.?
Would still be significantly off in the case of the three of us.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by skyvanman
Both of my parents have their v06 higher than v15, but for me its the other way around. Funny thing is my parents earn significantly more than I do and their v06 is lower than me but their v15 is higher, but still nowhere near accurate (by orders of magnitude).
Would still be way way low for me.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:36 pm
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The other case of racial profiling is with Latinos-look at how many mosaic categories there are for them!
Some of them must be very pleased to be 'Ciudad Strivers'
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by hnewman
I had to ask someone the same thing

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okay, that's what I thought. But I couldn't figure out in what context. Is that a value that changes and is tied to, say, your most recent or upcoming trip? My last trip was Q outbound and U inbound, and my next upcoming is X outbound and U inbound.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 4:42 pm
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My "v30" number is the same as when the profile was available earlier. That number is 23. My travel has cut back this year but again all my travel has been on refundable fares.
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