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Old Jun 12, 2013, 7:24 pm
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Figured a highly collaborative effort like this needs a wikipost. As items and codes are confirmed, let's centralize them in one place rather than thumb through hundreds of discussion posts.

How to pull your information
Log into your SkyMiles account at Delta.com, then visit this link: https://www.delta.com/databroker/bcdata.action

What the items indicate
v01: Closest airport to home address (encoded using key 1)
v02: Country of residence
v03:
v04: Preferred departure airport/city (encoded using key 2)
v05: Language
v06: discSpndngAmt, in thousands
v07: Skymiles status level
v08: State/province (encoded using key 2)
v09: Pay with Miles eligible
v10: sunTrstInd
v11: prefDestCity
v12: MQS
v13: Hotel loyalty programs stored in DL.com profile (encoded using key 2, see post #829)
v14:
v15: Income, in thousands
v16: Current age + 99
v17: 1/2/3 MM Status
v18: Home value, in thousands
v19:
v20: SkyClub member
v21: SkyMiles account number
v22: Experian Mosaic segment (encoded using keys 1 and 3, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post20913445) Description here and Segment Details here
v23: Saved search destination airports (encoded using key 1)
v24: SkyClub renewal date (coded using key 3)
v25: Saved payment information (encoded using key 1) AND SPG status (encoded using key 1, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post20913463)
v26: Gender/prefix (1=male/Mr, 2=female/Ms/Mrs, 3=Dr/other) (to be confirmed)
v27:
v28: SkyMiles account number with 3 leading zeros (called "CustID" in previous data)
v29: Logged in (SM account)
v30: Customer Value Score (Questionable, and scale is unknown)
v31: RDM balance
v32: Dream trips from DL.com profile (encoded using key 2)
v33: MQM balance
v34: Activities & Interests from DL.com profile
v35:
v36:
v37:
v38:
v39: ?? Duplicate for Language ??
v40: ?? Duplicate for Country of Residence ??

Encoding

Three different coding keys are used for variables 01, 04, 08, 13, 22, 23, 24, 25, and 32. For full mappings, click here: Keys 1, 2, and 3
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by hnewman
I am surprised it is still here. Given that it was supposed to be gone I suspect someone will be walked out.
No, it looks to me like someone decided that it would be enough to encrypt it in this simple way. It might have been easier to prevent outside access than to shuffle the fields around and encrypt some entries. Maybe the person that made the decision needs to be fired, but it's not like someone failed to do some assigned duty, namely stopping access by the link when logged in.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
No, it looks to me like someone decided that it would be enough to encrypt it in this simple way. It might have been easier to prevent outside access than to shuffle the fields around and encrypt some entries. Maybe the person that made the decision needs to be fired, but it's not like someone failed to do some assigned duty, namely preventing access by the link when logged in.
Maybe but it was so simple and took so little time that someone is going to have to blame someone in a big company.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by BER Flyer
Would not make sense for "isSM member" as that is visible 2 x in the fields with your SM number which would be blank otherwise. "is loggedin"? Maybe.
As we have reports from the past that DL.com returns different results/prices for the same search for logged in/not logged members the system must take note of that feature and it might be displayed in the data string here.
Agree it is duplicative to other fields, but there was this field in the prior version. Since everyone with data will be a SM member, it should hold as Y for everyone. Unless someone can disprove...
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 9:46 am
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Did the old version have exactly 37 fields?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:09 am
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Does anyone have data for V32?

I have one point and have messed around with my DL.com profile to see if my suspicions are correct - but I'd love to validate with someone else (as the data on DL.com does not update instantly)
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Did the old version have exactly 37 fields?
No, it had 39.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by eturowski
No, it had 39.
So do we know or suspect which fields were eliminated? If anything, I would have expected a new field for SPG Crossover.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by eturowski
No, it had 39.
But they might have changed a few entrys. They replaced the date if birth with your age. Also what happend to "skyPrtyInd"? Or would that simply be derived from your SM status?
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by flyerwma
v26 is likely gender. In 5 cases, it holds that 1=M, 2=F.
I also confirm - I am male when I checked this morning and I am 1
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:25 am
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Checking with She Who Must Be Obeyed (who is a CPA an more financially oriented) the V18 "Home Value" is pretty much what our mortgage was when we bought 17 years ago.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by flyerwma
Anyone have a "N' value for v03? If everyone has Y, then I bet it is either the old "is a skymiles member" or "is logged in". (Also, it is in field 3 up near the basic info).
my V03 is Y
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
No, it looks to me like someone decided that it would be enough to encrypt it in this simple way. It might have been easier to prevent outside access than to shuffle the fields around and encrypt some entries. Maybe the person that made the decision needs to be fired, but it's not like someone failed to do some assigned duty, namely stopping access by the link when logged in.
Either way, Delta IT needs an overhaul, but it does not take many brain cells to figure that one out.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by timmy83
Does anyone have data for V32?

I have one point and have messed around with my DL.com profile to see if my suspicions are correct - but I'd love to validate with someone else (as the data on DL.com does not update instantly)
Last time I checked it was returning [null string]. I have updated my DL.com profile and will wait a while and see if anything changes and let you know.

As I pointed out about 200 posts back, there really needs to be at least 1 [null] because there needs to be space for a true MQD later in the year when it starts showing in our profiles.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by flyerwma
v26 is likely gender. In 5 cases, it holds that 1=M, 2=F.
My v26 is 3, so I'm not so sure about this theory, unless it's encoding additional information. DL.dumb definitely has me down as male.
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Old Jun 13, 2013, 10:50 am
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Interesting.

My income is close... within +/- 30%.

But, as a self-employed consultant with multiple clients, there is no way they have access to any sort of salary info.

I would love to learn that my house has the value they estimated. Clearly not at all related to the original mortgage or sale price.

The did get "Thriving Boomer, Full pockets, Empty nest" correct though.

And the closest air port is correct... just that it is a municipal airport with no commercial service (although DL did try it for a while with a commuter flight that fizzled out)

Why has DL kept this info available? Be honest folks, most of you are fixated on the customer value score, and they want to keep you fixated on this.
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