“Do You Know Who I Am?”: The Definitive Thread of DYKWIA Stories
#3151
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MCO
Programs: DL exDM MM
Posts: 762
Now, if this was your idea and she did not know about it until you told her of your success, well then I vote for DYKWIA.
#3152
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Phoenix
Programs: DL Diamond,1.8 MM; AA Gold
Posts: 189
+1. 150%.
Honestly, maybe this makes me a horrible person or a DYKWIA myself, but I don't really care what the specific issue is. For the record, I'm female. Your pregnant wife trumps me, but does the double amputee veteran trump her? Or the silent person with recent outpatient surgery (say, to remove a mole) and uncomfortable surgical dressing on their side, which is under their clothes, so you can't see it? Or maybe I am 8 weeks pregnant and horribly sick, but not showing so how would you even know? What constitutes deserving?
These are the kinds of reasons why the computer should make the choice, and nothing else.
If you have medical issues, I believe that you are allowed to request bulkhead, but I don't think it should give them the right to give you someone else's upgrade.
Honestly, maybe this makes me a horrible person or a DYKWIA myself, but I don't really care what the specific issue is. For the record, I'm female. Your pregnant wife trumps me, but does the double amputee veteran trump her? Or the silent person with recent outpatient surgery (say, to remove a mole) and uncomfortable surgical dressing on their side, which is under their clothes, so you can't see it? Or maybe I am 8 weeks pregnant and horribly sick, but not showing so how would you even know? What constitutes deserving?
These are the kinds of reasons why the computer should make the choice, and nothing else.
If you have medical issues, I believe that you are allowed to request bulkhead, but I don't think it should give them the right to give you someone else's upgrade.
#3153
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: MCO
Programs: AA EXP, United PS, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Titanium, Wyndham Gold, Club Carlson Gold, Amtrak
Posts: 1,254
+1. 150%.
Honestly, maybe this makes me a horrible person or a DYKWIA myself, but I don't really care what the specific issue is. For the record, I'm female. Your pregnant wife trumps me, but does the double amputee veteran trump her? Or the silent person with recent outpatient surgery (say, to remove a mole) and uncomfortable surgical dressing on their side, which is under their clothes, so you can't see it? Or maybe I am 8 weeks pregnant and horribly sick, but not showing so how would you even know? What constitutes deserving?
These are the kinds of reasons why the computer should make the choice, and nothing else.
If you have medical issues, I believe that you are allowed to request bulkhead, but I don't think it should give them the right to give you someone else's upgrade.
Honestly, maybe this makes me a horrible person or a DYKWIA myself, but I don't really care what the specific issue is. For the record, I'm female. Your pregnant wife trumps me, but does the double amputee veteran trump her? Or the silent person with recent outpatient surgery (say, to remove a mole) and uncomfortable surgical dressing on their side, which is under their clothes, so you can't see it? Or maybe I am 8 weeks pregnant and horribly sick, but not showing so how would you even know? What constitutes deserving?
These are the kinds of reasons why the computer should make the choice, and nothing else.
If you have medical issues, I believe that you are allowed to request bulkhead, but I don't think it should give them the right to give you someone else's upgrade.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
#3154
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I agree completely. I recently had a car accident, lost my legs and am waiting to get prosthetics. I have never used my current situation to weasel an UG out from under another Medallion. As a GM, I'm batting about 70%, but use miles on flights where I expect limited or no success. SEA-ATL on a 76W and JFK-SEA, for instance.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
#3155
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I agree completely. I recently had a car accident, lost my legs and am waiting to get prosthetics. I have never used my current situation to weasel an UG out from under another Medallion. As a GM, I'm batting about 70%, but use miles on flights where I expect limited or no success. SEA-ATL on a 76W and JFK-SEA, for instance.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
#3156
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
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#3157
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AADULtArer
Posts: 5,693
I agree completely. I recently had a car accident, lost my legs and am waiting to get prosthetics. I have never used my current situation to weasel an UG out from under another Medallion. As a GM, I'm batting about 70%, but use miles on flights where I expect limited or no success. SEA-ATL on a 76W and JFK-SEA, for instance.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
I am making my first TPAC since the accident next month and will ask about an op-up to a BE seat that would otherwise fly empty. I won't feel bad about this, because every Medallion tries to weasel into one of those seats.
#3158
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 937
I'm gonna chime back in because it's been a month since i posted and i'm intrigued that this convo is taking place.
1 - At no point did I ask the GA to "help my pregnant wife with an upgrade." That point was only originally made to the other pax.
2 - At no point did I demand that I get an upgrade because I'm a GM.
3 - While I was under the impression that my ticket was ineligible for upgrades, the GA was able to upgrade me on both legs so does some of the blame lie with Delta's inconsistency? Both legs were flown as RU.
While i'll admit to being a little 'weasly' in my actions (and I guess I somehow did find a valid loophole??) at no point did I demand an upgrade, threaten to 'never fly Delta again' or yell at the GA. A response of "no i'm sorry sir" or "yes we can upgrade you for $200" would have been met with a polite response and a seat in coach.
I'll own up to being shady, weasely, a jerkface, whatever.....but I think the "demand" or "expectation" has to be there in order to be the DYKWIA.
1 - At no point did I ask the GA to "help my pregnant wife with an upgrade." That point was only originally made to the other pax.
2 - At no point did I demand that I get an upgrade because I'm a GM.
3 - While I was under the impression that my ticket was ineligible for upgrades, the GA was able to upgrade me on both legs so does some of the blame lie with Delta's inconsistency? Both legs were flown as RU.
While i'll admit to being a little 'weasly' in my actions (and I guess I somehow did find a valid loophole??) at no point did I demand an upgrade, threaten to 'never fly Delta again' or yell at the GA. A response of "no i'm sorry sir" or "yes we can upgrade you for $200" would have been met with a polite response and a seat in coach.
I'll own up to being shady, weasely, a jerkface, whatever.....but I think the "demand" or "expectation" has to be there in order to be the DYKWIA.
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#3159
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: MCO
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Posts: 1,254
Thank you all for your sympathies.
I certainly wish it hadn't happened, but I'm back to work, back up in the skies and enjoying life. Also thankful DL stows my power wheelchair and treats me no differently than before.
I'll kindly ask the GA if an op-up would be possible, but if not, I'll be roughing it in economy. Thankfully I don't have to go halfway around the world - just a 12-hour jaunt to PEK.
I would disagree with CMK10 that requesting an op-up makes one a DYKWIA.
I certainly wish it hadn't happened, but I'm back to work, back up in the skies and enjoying life. Also thankful DL stows my power wheelchair and treats me no differently than before.
I'll kindly ask the GA if an op-up would be possible, but if not, I'll be roughing it in economy. Thankfully I don't have to go halfway around the world - just a 12-hour jaunt to PEK.
I would disagree with CMK10 that requesting an op-up makes one a DYKWIA.
#3160
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And that's fine. But all do respect to your current situation and please don't take this personally, but I think anytime someone says "I have x and therefore I want y without paying for it" in a travel context, it makes you a DYKWIA.
#3161
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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I am old enough so that I could get pre-boarding any time that I want it but the only time I have asked for it was when I was traveling during the holiday season and had boxes of chocolates for the crew.
As this meant giving them to the purser to distribute before people started crowding in (and leaving the purser free to do his/her job), I felt that I should board early and did. I don't feel this made me a DYKWIA.
#3162
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 937
Asking for a benefit that is part of a program you participate in does not make someone a DYKWIA. Demanding special favors, loudly bragging about whatever it is that makes you special or yelling at those who wont give in to you makes you a DYKWIA. It also makes you an a------.
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#3163
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: MCO
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When I ask about the possibility of an op-up I will not be throwing a pity party. If the GA is inclined to give me one, I will be most appreciative, but will otherwise be happy with the service I paid for.
#3164
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Is that only for upgrades? If I check a bag and they forget to put a yellow priority tag on my bag and i remind them to do so, am i a dykwia? If I have to change flights last minute and ask to be put in an EC seat as a GM am I a DYKWIA? If I'm a Hilton Diamond member and I ask about a room upgrade without being proactively offered one am I a DYKWIA?
No one is entitled to a free upgrade on an international leg, especially if the argument is "the seat would otherwise go empty". I'm Amtrak Select Plus (equivalent to mid-tier airline status) and I wouldn't argue that for a sleeper.
#3165
Join Date: Dec 2011
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At the risk of appearing insensitive to DeltaWings' situation, I agree with CMK10. Op-Ups are given when DL needs to give them i.e., when Y is oversold and there is room in BE. The order in which they are given is defined by DL policy, according to status and fare within status. Asking the GA for an Op-Up is playing on their heartstrings to ask for something out of turn. If you're entitled to an Op-Up, you'll get an Op-Up. What you are asking is to get an Op-Up and have someone who would otherwise get an Op-Up not get an Op-Up. In other words, you are being a DYKWIA where the "WIA" in this case is a person with a medical condition asking to go ahead of somebody who either doesn't have a "competing" medical condition or who hasn't asked for the favor.