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767-300ER Fleet/Configuration Information
Ships 171, 172, 174-199, 1200-1201 have PW engines
Ships 1501-1506, 1521, 1601-1613, 1701-1708 have GE engines

*76K: C26W18Y+21/Y151: 32. ViaSat IFC mods in progress (31/32 complete…1 in mods)
76K cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74yjliTxfY
Mod includes: PS cabin, memory foam cushions and seat covers in D1/espresso machine in D1/ new lavs/PED power at all seats/LED lighting/AVOD/~~Sat-WiFi~~ Seatmap: https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft.../767-300er-76k
180 N180DN...76K mod @ CAN June 18 2022 - 21 July 2022. Arrived @ CAN Mar 18 2024 for mx and ViaSat IFC. Exit 4/29
185 N185DN…Reactivated Nov 15 2021…L>Z mod @ CAN Nov 19 2021 - Jan 22 2022...76K mod @ CAN Dec 15 2023 - Jan 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
186 N186DN…Reactivated July 17 2021...RTS Sep 20 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 12 2023 - Oct 19 2023. ViaSat IFC.
187 N187DN…Reactivated Sept 15 2021...RTS Nov 5 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 25 2023 - Nov 24 2023. ViaSat IFC.
188 N188DN...76K mod @ CAN April 9 2022 - May 21 2022. ViaSat IFC.
189 N189DN...76K mod @ CAN March 29 2022 - April 30 2022. ViaSat IFC.
190 N190DN...76K mod @ CAN Aug 5 2022 - Sept 15 2022. ViaSat IFC.
191 N191DN...76K mod @ CAN April 24 2023 - May 22 2023. ViaSat IFC.
192 N192DN…Reactivated June 25 2021..RTS Dec 3 2021...exited Dec 2 2023. ViaSat IFC.
193 N193DN…Reactivated June 7 2021...RTS Aug 15 2021...76K mod @ CAN Aug 23 2023 - Sept 23 2023. ViaSat IFC.
194 N194DN…Reactivated Aug 24 2021...RTS Oct 12 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 13 2023 - Nov 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
195 N195DN…76K mod @ CAN Sept 11 2022 - Oct 24 2022. ViaSat IFC.
196 N196DN…Reactivated July 17 2021...RTS Aug 30 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 8 2023 - Oct 13 2023. ViaSat IFC.
197 N197DN...76K mod @ CAN Sept 15 2022 - Nov 1 2022. ViaSat IFC.
198 N198DN…76K mod @ CAN Oct 24 2022 - Dec 8 2022. ViaSat IFC.
199 N199DN...76K mod @ CAN Feb 10 2023 - March 25 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1200 N1200K…76K mod @ CAN Dec 29 2022 - Feb 10 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1201 N1201P...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2022 - Feb 18 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1601 N169DZ…76K mod @ CAN Feb 17 2023 - April 6 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1602 N1602...76K mod @ CAN Dec 2 2021 - Jan 16 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1603 N1603...76K mod @ CAN May 21 2022 - June 22 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1604 N1604R...76K mod @ CAN Feb 23 2022 - April 10 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1605 N1605...76K mod @ CAN April 30 2022 - June 18 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1606 N16065...76K mod @ CAN Jun 30 2022 - Aug 5 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1701 N171DZ...76K mod @ CAN April 23 2023 - June 7 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1702 N172DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 8 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1703 N173DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 11 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1704 N174DZ...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2021 - Dec 20 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1705 N175DZ...76K mod @ CAN Dec 6 2021 - Jan 13 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1706 N176DZ...76K mod @ CAN Jan 9 2022 - Feb 11 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1707 N177DZ...76K mod @ CAN March 16 2022 - April 30 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1708 N178DZ...76K mod @ MCI Feb 3 2021 - June 14 2021. ViaSat IFC (prototype).

*76Z Version 1: C26W35Y165: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi
76Z cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DqHvA8voFs
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z1.html
~~181 N181DN…retired to SBD 12/17/23.~~
182 N182DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC.
184 N184DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. ViaSat IFC.
*Note: This version has 13-14CDE as preferred seats, not C+. This configuration does not have doors near the engines (like the 764 does) and does have 2 over-wing exits (like the 76L/76T). There are lavatories near the over-wing exits (20-21CDE do not exist).
*see post #1643 for the list of mods

*76Z Version 2: C26W29Y171: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z2.html
N1501P...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018.
N152DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N153DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018
N154DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N155DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N156DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
1521 N394DL…reactivated Aug 3 2021. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv2.
*Note: This version has doors near the engines (like the 764) and only has one over-wing exit. There are lavatories near the 2nd set of doors (13-14CDE do not exist). Unlike all other 767 versions Delta has, there isn't a lavatory set near the over-wing exits (because they are near the 2nd set of doors).
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

*76L: C36W32Y143: New Y seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi. ViaSat IFC mods in progress (5/7 complete…1 in mods).
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...00er-76l.html/
76L cabin video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG9CgCBnC1o
171 N171DN…reactivated April 5 2021…will retire as a 76L. Arrived @ CAN March 17 2024 for ViaSat IFC.
172 N172DN…reactivated Feb 25 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
174 N174DN…reactivated March 12 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
175 N175DN…reactivated March 26 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
176 N176DN…reactivated July 5 2022…Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. Will retire by end of 2024 as a 76L.
177 N177DN…reactivated May 19 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC future TBD.
178 N178DN…reactivated May 18 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
179 N179DN…reactivated March 17 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
~~183 N183DN…reactivated March 28 2022…did not receive ViaSat IFC. Retired at SBD 4/25/24~~
*Note: For flights needing a crew rest (most flights to Europe, and anything to Africa/South America/Asia), a seat (usually 7A) is blocked off for crew rest.
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications, but all have been reactivated.

76T: C36W29Y143: 777 Y seats/OLD AVOD/SAT-WIFI
All 76Ts were sold to Amazon in 2020.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...300er-76t.html
N1607B
N1608
N1609
N1610D
N1611B
N1612T
N1613B
*Note: This configuration is used inclusive on SEA-PVG, ATL-LOS. It also frequently works SEA-ATL to provide rotation. These aircraft do cover flights to Europe All 36J seats will be sold because it has a crew rest module installed. Also, the Y seats are the older ones like the 777 with the older IFE system (only 767-300ER type with that, all others are the newer seats/system).
**All retired 6/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

What DL is believed to do is put all flights with 26J as the 76Z Version 2 configuration and then change it to 76Z Version 1 closer to departure as needed. If you select 20-21CDE when it is 76Z Version 2 and it changes to 76Z Version 1, it should seat you in 13-14CDE considering that 20-21CDE doesn't exist on the configuration it changed to. All other seats are numbered the same regardless of Version 1 or 2, although there may be minor differences such as row 20 being an exit row on Version 1.

Sept 25 2020 Announcement: Delta to retire 717, 767-300ER and CRJ-200

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Aug 1, 2012, 2:25 pm

#796

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bago'peanuts

Flight 140 JFK-BRU has long received the remodeled planes with flat beds but I noticed that the icon on DL's booking page changes from flat beds to cradle seats on Oct 26th. However, the seat maps after Oct 25th still show a 1x2x1 configuration for the dates I checked. Anyone have any insights as to whether the icon or seat map would be a more reliable indicator of flat bed equipment, or heard any other news that the flat beds will be yanked from this route? Both a/c are shown as 767-300.

From rumors I have heard I think one of the BRU flights may be going seasonal. I think JFK-BRU may be the one going seasonal. And Oct 26 has been rumored as the discontinue date. U may want to check your schedules in the next 1-2 weeks.

Aug 2, 2012, 9:07 pm

#797

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Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler

what happens if delta sold these flights (e.g. 1 month ago) marketed as having flatbeds, and now changes equipment to the old 767s with recliners? do they "make it up to the customer" in any way? or does a customer have grounds to get refunded without penalties?

Aug 3, 2012, 1:33 am

#798

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It states on the website that in flight products are subject to change. That said, they might be willing to change you to another route for no fee if you ask nicely, but there is no obligation.

Aug 3, 2012, 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by Bago'peanuts

OK, ready for a complicated explanation?

Here's what I think has happened:

The original 7 763ERs that were reconfigured were the 76Ts (these were the 12+ hour birds) and they have flat crew rest facilities for both pilots and FAs). These planes have 36 BE seats in 1-2-1 and 172 Y seats for sale.

The eighth 763ER (latest one converted) was the first non-76T (i.e., it was originally a 'regular' 763ER, and not one of those used for 12+ hour flights), and has no pilot crew rest facility (so the pilot takes a BE seat for rest). This configuration has 35 BE seats in 1-2-1 and 175Y seats for sale. They were able to add 3 more EC seats to the Y cabin because there is no pilot rest bunk in the area. Going forward, I believe the majority of the 763ER flat beds will be of this model (except for the ex-Gulf 76Gs).
You can tell this type through the seat map by the 1-2-1 BE cabin and the existence of the 3 extra EC seats (16C, D, E). Notice that the 76T EC/Y section starts with 17ABCDEFG.
For some reason, I believe they have coded this type as a 76L, which is also the current code for the non-wingleted non-refurbished 763ERs. Hence, the system recognizes it as a non-refurbished 763ER, and the icons on delta.com show up as BE recliners instead. JFK-BRU is loaded the flat-bed 76L- and hence shows up on delta.com with recliners instead, but the seatmap shows 1-2-1 in BE. I would go with the seatmap for accuracy anytime over the icons on delta.com

I think the 763ER flatbed mods will start up again in September...that's why by end of October, you see both JFK-BRU and JFK-FRA loaded as flat-bed 76Ls (both don't require 12+ hour 76Ts), and since there is only one flat-bed 76L in the fleet currently, they are obviously expecting to have at least one more by that time!

Aug 3, 2012, 7:23 am

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

OK, ready for a complicated explanation?

Here's what I think has happened:

Many thanks for your explanation! Now I can stop checking my seats on the seat map every hour.

Aug 3, 2012, 8:21 am

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

the system recognizes it as a non-refurbished 763ER, and the icons on delta.com show up as BE recliners instead. !

Sorry but I'm still unclear. Am looking to book Delta Business Class JFK-BRU early Oct and BRU-JFK late October. Am I correct that JFK-BRU WILL be a true flat bed 100% lie flat as indicated by icon on delta and seatmap 1 2 1? More importantly, please clarify the return. Delta icon says "stretch out in generously reclining seat" and Seat Guru calls seat a "recliner". Is than an angled flat bed? Is that what you anticipate the seat will be on JFK-BRU? Thanks in advance.

Aug 3, 2012, 8:46 am

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Originally Posted by fmkgb

The 764's and modified 763's have fully lay flat seats in J, identifiable by the 1-2-1 J configuration.

Aug 3, 2012, 10:56 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fmkgb

Is than an angled flat bed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwoman

The 764's and modified 763's have fully lay flat seats in J, identifiable by the 1-2-1 J configuration.

Correct -- perhaps more precisely, it is a horizontal lay flat bed. And SeatGuru has been notoriously inaccurate with respect to many of DL's aircraft.

Aug 3, 2012, 11:50 am

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Originally Posted by Bago'peanuts

Correct -- perhaps more precisely, it is a horizontal lay flat bed. And SeatGuru has been notoriously inaccurate with respect to many of DL's aircraft.

Yes, it is horizontal, not angled.

Aug 19, 2012, 9:25 pm

#805

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Was lucky enough to get the op-up on BRU-ATL today on N1609 due to oversold situation. Very nice seat, although a bit narrow but more comfortable then the firmer seats on the 777. Plus, you are able to use the window. Food and service were top notch and even better than other BE flights I have taken on Pacific routes on the 777.

Aug 19, 2012, 11:21 pm

#806

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Originally Posted by jdrtravel

I'm actually more of a fan of shorter flights and more connections. I just don't like being in a plane for 10 or 12 hours...esp on an inferior product. That said, SLC to Paris would be almost as long and if on upgraded equipment would be lay flat for the long haul---in which case I might actually sleep. I'll never forget the 12 hours from TLV-JFK in the 763 in BE that I was awake the entire ride for. . . . So...anyone know anything about schedule of roll out?

How often, if at all, do swaps occur (or, perhaps more precisely, do refurbished 763s end up "out of position"?). I opted for ISTJFK in about a week instead of a connection via CDG to the A380, knowing full well that we are not scheduled to have a refurbished aircraft. Flying in J.

I'm thinking my chances of a better aircraft showing up are akin to Dumb and Dumber..."so you're saying there's a chance..."

Aug 21, 2012, 6:25 am

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Originally Posted by Bago'peanuts

Many thanks for your explanation! Now I can stop checking my seats on the seat map every hour.

sounds like somone I know!

So, anything definitive on the restart up of the 763 mods?

Aug 22, 2012, 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by nypdLieu

So, anything definitive on the restart up of the 763 mods?

The summer only routes start going in late aug/early sept, ARN is gone on Aug 30th or 31st and CPH follows a few days after, PSA seems to be gone in Sept too. Cuts like that should start leaving some slack in the system to send planes to HKG for conversion.

So, should be a good idea to monitor seat maps on the NRT-HKG route then, a 767 instead of a 777 will be a good indicator that a plane is going in for mods. That will be the queue for some kind soul to start checking registration numbers on flightaware

Aug 22, 2012, 6:14 pm

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So, should be a good idea to monitor seat maps on the NRT-HKG route then, a 767 instead of a 777 will be a good indicator that a plane is going in for mods. That will be the queue for some kind soul to start checking registration numbers on flightaware

it could also mean a plane going in for a D check.

Aug 22, 2012, 6:40 pm

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How many aircraft has already completely? What is ship# is that? Can you give me more info about reconfigured the cabin interior.