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767-300ER Fleet/Configuration Information
Ships 171, 172, 174-199, 1200-1201 have PW engines
Ships 1501-1506, 1521, 1601-1613, 1701-1708 have GE engines

*76K: C26W18Y+21/Y151: 32. ViaSat IFC mods in progress (30/32 complete…2 in mods)
76K cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74yjliTxfY
Mod includes: PS cabin, memory foam cushions and seat covers in D1/espresso machine in D1/ new lavs/PED power at all seats/LED lighting/AVOD/~~Sat-WiFi~~ Seatmap: https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft.../767-300er-76k
180 N180DN...76K mod @ CAN June 18 2022 - 21 July 2022. Arrived @ CAN Mar 18 2024 for mx and ViaSat IFC.
185 N185DN…Reactivated Nov 15 2021…L>Z mod @ CAN Nov 19 2021 - Jan 22 2022...76K mod @ CAN Dec 15 2023 - Jan 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
186 N186DN…Reactivated Jul 17 2021...RTS Sep 20 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 12 2023 - Oct 19 2023. ViaSat IFC.
187 N187DN…Reactivated Sep 15 2021...RTS Nov 5 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 25 2023 - Nov 24 2023. ViaSat IFC.
188 N188DN...76K mod @ CAN Apr 9 2022 - 21 May 2022. ViaSat IFC.
189 N189DN...76K mod @ CAN Mar 29 2022 - Apr 30 2022. Arrived @ MSP Apr 09 2024 for mx and ViaSat IFC.
190 N190DN...76K mod @ CAN Aug 5 2022 - Sep 15 2022. ViaSat IFC.
191 N191DN...76K mod @ CAN Apr 24 2023 - May 22 2023. ViaSat IFC.
192 N192DN…Reactivated Jun 25 2021..RTS Dec 3 2021...exited Dec 2 2023. ViaSat IFC.
193 N193DN…Reactivated Jun 7 2021...RTS Aug 15 2021...76K mod @ CAN Aug 23 2023 - Sept 23 2023. ViaSat IFC.
194 N194DN…Reactivated Aug 24 2021...RTS Oct 12 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 13 2023 - Nov 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
195 N195DN…76K mod @ CAN Sept 11 2022 - Oct 24 2022. ViaSat IFC.
196 N196DN…Reactivated July 17 2021...RTS Aug 30 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 8 2023 - Oct 13 2023. ViaSat IFC.
197 N197DN...76K mod @ CAN Sept 15 2022 - Nov 1 2022. ViaSat IFC.
198 N198DN…76K mod @ CAN Oct 24 2022 - Dec 8 2022. ViaSat IFC.
199 N199DN...76K mod @ CAN Feb 10 2023 - Mar 25 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1200 N1200K…76K mod @ CAN Dec 29 2022 - Feb 10 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1201 N1201P...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2022 - Feb 18 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1601 N169DZ…76K mod @ CAN Feb 17 2023 - Apr 6 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1602 N1602...76K mod @ CAN Dec 2 2021 - Jan 16 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1603 N1603...76K mod @ CAN May 21 2022 - Jun 22 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1604 N1604R...76K mod @ CAN Feb 23 2022 - Apr 10 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1605 N1605...76K mod @ CAN Apr 30 2022 - Jun 18 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1606 N16065...76K mod @ CAN Jun 30 2022 - Aug 5 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1701 N171DZ...76K mod @ CAN Apr 23 2023 - Jun 7 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1702 N172DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 8 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1703 N173DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 11 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1704 N174DZ...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2021 - Dec 20 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1705 N175DZ...76K mod @ CAN Dec 6 2021 - Jan 13 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1706 N176DZ...76K mod @ CAN Jan 9 2022 - Feb 11 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1707 N177DZ...76K mod @ CAN Mar 16 2022 - Apr 30 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1708 N178DZ...76K mod @ MCI Feb 3 2021 - Jun 14 2021. ViaSat IFC (prototype).

*76Z Version 1: C26W35Y165: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi
76Z cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DqHvA8voFs
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z1.html
~~181 N181DN…retired to SBD 12/17/23.~~
182 N182DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC.
184 N184DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. ViaSat IFC.
*Note: This version has 13-14CDE as preferred seats, not C+. This configuration does not have doors near the engines (like the 764 does) and does have 2 over-wing exits (like the 76L/76T). There are lavatories near the over-wing exits (20-21CDE do not exist).
*see post #1643 for the list of mods

*76Z Version 2: C26W29Y171: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z2.html
N1501P...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018.
N152DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N153DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018
N154DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N155DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N156DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
1521 N394DL…reactivated Aug 3 2021. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv2.
*Note: This version has doors near the engines (like the 764) and only has one over-wing exit. There are lavatories near the 2nd set of doors (13-14CDE do not exist). Unlike all other 767 versions Delta has, there isn't a lavatory set near the over-wing exits (because they are near the 2nd set of doors).
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

*76L: C36W32Y143: New Y seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi. ViaSat IFC mods in progress (4/7 complete…2 in mods).
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...00er-76l.html/
76L cabin video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG9CgCBnC1o
171 N171DN…reactivated April 5 2021…will retire as a 76L. Arrived @ CAN Mar 17 2024 for ViaSat IFC.
172 N172DN…reactivated Feb 25 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
174 N174DN…reactivated March 12 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
175 N175DN…reactivated March 26 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
176 N176DN…reactivated July 5 2022…Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. Will retire by end of 2024 as a 76L.
177 N177DN…reactivated May 19 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC status TBD.
178 N178DN…reactivated May 18 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
179 N179DN…reactivated March 17 2021…will retire as a 76L. Arrived @ CAN Mar 22 2024 for ViaSat IFC. Exit to HNL 4/20/24
183 N183DN…reactivated March 28 2022…Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. Will retire by end of 2024 as a 76L.
*Note: For flights needing a crew rest (most flights to Europe, and anything to Africa/South America/Asia), a seat (usually 7A) is blocked off for crew rest.
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications, but all have been reactivated.

76T: C36W29Y143: 777 Y seats/OLD AVOD/SAT-WIFI
All 76Ts were sold to Amazon in 2020.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...300er-76t.html
N1607B
N1608
N1609
N1610D
N1611B
N1612T
N1613B
*Note: This configuration is used inclusive on SEA-PVG, ATL-LOS. It also frequently works SEA-ATL to provide rotation. These aircraft do cover flights to Europe All 36J seats will be sold because it has a crew rest module installed. Also, the Y seats are the older ones like the 777 with the older IFE system (only 767-300ER type with that, all others are the newer seats/system).
**All retired 6/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

What DL is believed to do is put all flights with 26J as the 76Z Version 2 configuration and then change it to 76Z Version 1 closer to departure as needed. If you select 20-21CDE when it is 76Z Version 2 and it changes to 76Z Version 1, it should seat you in 13-14CDE considering that 20-21CDE doesn't exist on the configuration it changed to. All other seats are numbered the same regardless of Version 1 or 2, although there may be minor differences such as row 20 being an exit row on Version 1.

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Dec 20, 2014, 9:57 pm

#1546

sky303

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peatisback

It seems 1B/C are a bit more forward in the cabin compared to 1A/D- is the lav/galley noise more of an issue here? I'm traveling w/Mrs. Peatisback and right now we have 1A and 1D; for some reason she wants to sit next to me for 8h and wants us to select a center pair.

Trying to decide if the larger foot cut out is worth more potential noise or if we should select something further back in the cabin...

Primary issue to me would be light from the galley and lavs. The galley, IME, is far enough forward of the seats to be out of earshot for the most part, as long as the crew aren't talking very loudly and/or slamming things, which is pretty rare IME. Problem is that often the galley lights aren't dimmed for a while after meal service is completed, and the lavs are close to these seats and the light, though not as bad with the blue ambient lighting used while not occupied/door is open, I could see that bothering someone.

I'm a pretty easy and deep sleeper so while I would have no issue with light or noise problems, someone who doesn't sleep as heavily or easily as me may. I think the footwell is easily worth the tradeoff though for me.

Dec 22, 2014, 12:25 am

#1547

mnredfox

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peatisback

If in middle, do not go row 1. You will get light and noise from the front galley. Go further back.

Dec 22, 2014, 8:12 am

#1548

bgriff

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peatisback

Personally I like these seats if 1A/1D are unavailable or I'm traveling with someone else, though I always sleep with an eye mask on planes and am a heavy sleeper so the bit of galley noise doesn't bother me. The bigger problem than galley light at these seats is the bright red/green indicator lights above the lavs, and the fairly bright blue light inside the lavs when the door is open, both of which definitely shine onto these seats.

If you are feeling chivalrous, definitely put Mrs. Peatisback in 1C, which is farther from the aisle and thus more shielded from these lights -- 1B gets it pretty directly though.

Dec 22, 2014, 8:21 am

#1549

Peatisback

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Thanks for the suggestions. I'm a really light sleeper but in the air I usually put my earbuds in and play white noise and use eyeshades- not perfect but it usually works. I'm also 6'4" and wear size 14 shoes so the larger footwell is appealing- the times I've been in the odd numbered D seats I've felt a little constricted.

We're flying CVG-CDG-DXB and have 7 hours at the CDG Sheraton. Though I'd love to sleep on the CVG-CDG segment and get on to the schedule/time of DXB I suppose we can sleep at the hotel for a few hours.

Is there a middle pair of seats further back that is particularly better than the others?

Dec 22, 2014, 8:55 am

#1550

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Originally Posted by Peatisback

No difference that I'm aware of, though all else equal you'll get fed a bit faster (and may have a better shot at getting your preferred meal option) the closer you are to the front.

Keep in mind that the B seats in the even-numbered rows and the C seats in the odd-numbered rows are "throne" seats where your feet go between the people in front of you, which is even more cramped than the non-row-1 A/D seats. That's the tradeoff: row 1 is a bit noiser and more exposed to light, but all of the other seat pairs have an undesirable throne seat. Assuming your wife is a good deal smaller than you, you'd want to put her in the throne seat.

Dec 22, 2014, 1:07 pm

#1551

sky303

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peatisback

No difference in other seat pairs further back. There is definitely a tradeoff, but if I had size 14 shoes, I wouldn't hesitate to take the seats in row 1. The footwell is definitely noticeable.

Dec 23, 2014, 7:55 am

#1552

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colerc

In row 1 is there a difference in the footwell size between 1B and 1C?

As it is a 4p departure and such a short flight I doubt we'll be able to get much sleep and will have a good nap during the layover; the noise/light may not be so bothersome if we're awake watching movies...

Dec 23, 2014, 8:04 am

#1553

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peatisback

I don't think there's any difference between the footwells between 1B and 1C, or at least if there is it isn't significant. 1B may be open to the aisle a bit on the side, but (unlike in other seats further back) there's enough space available that the space being open to the aisle isn't a necessary benefit, even with size 14 feet.

If you're not planning to sleep I would actually argue for taking seats further back. The colored lights from the lavs that I mentioned before are actually pretty annoying if you are trying to watch a movie in a darkened cabin, especially from 1B -- the annoyance of those lights is only avoided by wearing the eye mask if you're going to sleep.

Dec 28, 2014, 1:23 pm

#1554

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Originally Posted by colerc

+1.

May 18, 2015, 12:08 am

#1555

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Traveling with the wife this week to Tokyo on a 76L, SEA-HND. We're in business elite and pretty much have our choice of seats. Does anyone have any opinions about 1B and 1C? From what I've read it seems like they have bit more pitch being at the bulkhead, but SeatGuru has them as yellow b/c of galley/lavatory. Have read that 1A is very good despite this given the privacy and early service, but not much about 1B or 1C. Appreciate anyone's thoughts!

Apologies if this was answered... searched this thread & others and didn't see it specifically.

May 18, 2015, 2:20 am

#1556

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Originally Posted by biggysmall2

I love the front row. The extra foot room is great and early service. Plus feels more private up here. Noise and light are never an issue. Plus you'll feel like a private flight seating together like that in row 1. Go for it. You'll be happy. Only downfall is I prefer windows but I always travel solo.

May 18, 2015, 6:22 am

#1557

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Originally Posted by biggysmall2

Not sure if perhaps your post was merged into this thread after you wrote it but the two pages of this thread immediately preceding your post have lots of thoughts on these seats

May 18, 2015, 8:09 am

#1558

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biggysmall2

You get the extra legroom and more attentive service because you're closest to the galley, but IMO these seats are a little claustrophobic because they are a bit forward of the window seats in row 1, and you can't see the windows at all from these seats (there's a closet on either side). The same position on the 764 is a little bit behind the window seats so a bit more bright and airy.

May 18, 2015, 9:18 am

#1559

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Do the 767-300ER have Intl Wifi now? On my flight from SLC-CDG and CDG-SLC you could purchase for $19.99 for 1 hour and $39.99 for the flight. I didn't try it but I thought only A330 and 747 had it.

May 18, 2015, 2:26 pm

#1560

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bgriff

Not sure if perhaps your post was merged into this thread after you wrote it but the two pages of this thread immediately preceding your post have lots of thoughts on these seats

oh my, my bad! I searched for bulkhead and didn't see it come up. And there it is sitting right behind my question. boo me

apologies