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767-300ER Fleet/Configuration Information
Ships 171, 172, 174-199, 1200-1201 have PW engines
Ships 1501-1506, 1521, 1601-1613, 1701-1708 have GE engines

*76K: C26W18Y+21/Y151: 32. ViaSat IFC mods complete
76K cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74yjliTxfY
Mod includes: PS cabin, memory foam cushions and seat covers in D1/espresso machine in D1/ new lavs/PED power at all seats/LED lighting/AVOD/~~Sat-WiFi~~ Seatmap: https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft.../767-300er-76k
180 N180DN...76K mod @ CAN June 18 2022 - 21 July 2022. ViaSat IFC.
185 N185DN…Reactivated Nov 15 2021…L>Z mod @ CAN Nov 19 2021 - Jan 22 2022...76K mod @ CAN Dec 15 2023 - Jan 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
186 N186DN…Reactivated July 17 2021...RTS Sep 20 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 12 2023 - Oct 19 2023. ViaSat IFC.
187 N187DN…Reactivated Sept 15 2021...RTS Nov 5 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 25 2023 - Nov 24 2023. ViaSat IFC.
188 N188DN...76K mod @ CAN April 9 2022 - May 21 2022. ViaSat IFC.
189 N189DN...76K mod @ CAN March 29 2022 - April 30 2022. ViaSat IFC.
190 N190DN...76K mod @ CAN Aug 5 2022 - Sept 15 2022. ViaSat IFC.
191 N191DN...76K mod @ CAN April 24 2023 - May 22 2023. ViaSat IFC.
192 N192DN…Reactivated June 25 2021..RTS Dec 3 2021...exited Dec 2 2023. ViaSat IFC.
193 N193DN…Reactivated June 7 2021...RTS Aug 15 2021...76K mod @ CAN Aug 23 2023 - Sept 23 2023. ViaSat IFC.
194 N194DN…Reactivated Aug 24 2021...RTS Oct 12 2021...76K mod @ CAN Oct 13 2023 - Nov 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
195 N195DN…76K mod @ CAN Sept 11 2022 - Oct 24 2022. ViaSat IFC.
196 N196DN…Reactivated July 17 2021...RTS Aug 30 2021...76K mod @ CAN Sept 8 2023 - Oct 13 2023. ViaSat IFC.
197 N197DN...76K mod @ CAN Sept 15 2022 - Nov 1 2022. ViaSat IFC.
198 N198DN…76K mod @ CAN Oct 24 2022 - Dec 8 2022. ViaSat IFC.
199 N199DN...76K mod @ CAN Feb 10 2023 - March 25 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1200 N1200K…76K mod @ CAN Dec 29 2022 - Feb 10 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1201 N1201P...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2022 - Feb 18 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1601 N169DZ…76K mod @ CAN Feb 17 2023 - April 6 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1602 N1602...76K mod @ CAN Dec 2 2021 - Jan 16 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1603 N1603...76K mod @ CAN May 21 2022 - June 22 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1604 N1604R...76K mod @ CAN Feb 23 2022 - April 10 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1605 N1605...76K mod @ CAN April 30 2022 - June 18 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1606 N16065...76K mod @ CAN Jun 30 2022 - Aug 5 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1701 N171DZ...76K mod @ CAN April 23 2023 - June 7 2023. ViaSat IFC.
1702 N172DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 8 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1703 N173DZ...76K mod @ CAN Oct 11 2021 - Dec 6 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1704 N174DZ...76K mod @ CAN Nov 1 2021 - Dec 20 2021. ViaSat IFC.
1705 N175DZ...76K mod @ CAN Dec 6 2021 - Jan 13 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1706 N176DZ...76K mod @ CAN Jan 9 2022 - Feb 11 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1707 N177DZ...76K mod @ CAN March 16 2022 - April 30 2022. ViaSat IFC.
1708 N178DZ...76K mod @ MCI Feb 3 2021 - June 14 2021. ViaSat IFC (prototype).

*76Z Version 1: C26W35Y165: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi
76Z cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DqHvA8voFs
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z1.html
~~181 N181DN…retired to SBD 12/17/23.~~
182 N182DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC.
184 N184DN…will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv1. ViaSat IFC.
*Note: This version has 13-14CDE as preferred seats, not C+. This configuration does not have doors near the engines (like the 764 does) and does have 2 over-wing exits (like the 76L/76T). There are lavatories near the over-wing exits (20-21CDE do not exist).
*see post #1643 for the list of mods

*76Z Version 2: C26W29Y171: New Y Seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-300-76z2.html
N1501P...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018.
N152DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N153DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2018
N154DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N155DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
N156DL...Sold to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) in 2021
1521 N394DL…reactivated Aug 3 2021. Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. will retire by end of 2024 as a 76Zv2.
*Note: This version has doors near the engines (like the 764) and only has one over-wing exit. There are lavatories near the 2nd set of doors (13-14CDE do not exist). Unlike all other 767 versions Delta has, there isn't a lavatory set near the over-wing exits (because they are near the 2nd set of doors).
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

*76L: C36W32Y143: New Y seats/Lavs/AVOD/Sat-WiFi. ViaSat IFC mods in progress (5/7 complete…1 in mods).
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...00er-76l.html/
76L cabin video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG9CgCBnC1o
171 N171DN…reactivated April 5 2021…will retire as a 76L. Arrived @ CAN March 17 2024 for ViaSat IFC.
172 N172DN…reactivated Feb 25 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
174 N174DN…reactivated March 12 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
175 N175DN…reactivated March 26 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
176 N176DN…reactivated July 5 2022…Not expected to receive ViaSat IFC. Will retire by end of 2024 as a 76L.
177 N177DN…reactivated May 19 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC future TBD.
178 N178DN…reactivated May 18 2022…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
179 N179DN…reactivated March 17 2021…will retire as a 76L. ViaSat IFC.
~~183 N183DN…reactivated March 28 2022…did not receive ViaSat IFC. Retired at SBD 4/25/24~~
*Note: For flights needing a crew rest (most flights to Europe, and anything to Africa/South America/Asia), a seat (usually 7A) is blocked off for crew rest.
**All retired 9/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications, but all have been reactivated.

76T: C36W29Y143: 777 Y seats/OLD AVOD/SAT-WIFI
All 76Ts were sold to Amazon in 2020.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...300er-76t.html
N1607B
N1608
N1609
N1610D
N1611B
N1612T
N1613B
*Note: This configuration is used inclusive on SEA-PVG, ATL-LOS. It also frequently works SEA-ATL to provide rotation. These aircraft do cover flights to Europe All 36J seats will be sold because it has a crew rest module installed. Also, the Y seats are the older ones like the 777 with the older IFE system (only 767-300ER type with that, all others are the newer seats/system).
**All retired 6/30/2020 due to COVID-related fleet simplifications

What DL is believed to do is put all flights with 26J as the 76Z Version 2 configuration and then change it to 76Z Version 1 closer to departure as needed. If you select 20-21CDE when it is 76Z Version 2 and it changes to 76Z Version 1, it should seat you in 13-14CDE considering that 20-21CDE doesn't exist on the configuration it changed to. All other seats are numbered the same regardless of Version 1 or 2, although there may be minor differences such as row 20 being an exit row on Version 1.

Sept 25 2020 Announcement: Delta to retire 717, 767-300ER and CRJ-200

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Jan 2, 2020, 3:45 pm

#1636

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

It looks like DL is kicking off another round of mods on the 763ERs - not sure what the mods involve in addition to adding in PS..the first plane ship 188 (N188DN) is on its way now to CAN from ANC.

Would be sweet if they're doing the same as the 764 (I know not everyone is a fan of the new 764, but I am

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Jan 2, 2020, 6:04 pm

#1637

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Originally Posted by DLSuites

Its to bad. Delta on the JFK-LAX route is competing with AA and B6 who both have a far superior business class seat/PTV then Delta does. I love Delta but the past 3 to 4 flights in a D1 seat, the PTV either didnt work right or the seat didnt recline all the way or not at all. If DL wants to remain competitive on this route than they should make it a priority to redo a bunch of 767-300's with a refreshed D1 seat.

....DL has 56 of those aircraft (B767-300ER's still active (in use), and, you are correct, the international flights will eventually be replaced with the A330-900NEO's (37 of them on order of which 4 have been delivered all ready). So, it's not a 1 for 1 replacement. DL will probably keep a small bunch running domestically (and a good chance of them will be on the JFK-LAX-JFK legs). A339's will be arriving until 2023 I seem to remember.

Jan 3, 2020, 4:26 pm

#1638

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The B763/4 on the LAX - JFK route isn't great, but is the only guaranteed all-aisle carrier on the route. Seats are garbage, but at least widebody / aisle compared to AA A321 or UA 757. But it is completely eclipsed by the 78X UA flies twice daily with full Polaris business. Plan all my travel around those itineraries to the extent possible these days...would probably switch back to DL if 1) it still had the daily A333 or 2) had the updated semi-suites.

Jan 3, 2020, 4:32 pm

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GW McLintock

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UA has one significant downside: EWR. That's a dealbreaker for me.

-J.

Jan 3, 2020, 4:44 pm

#1640

pbfoot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GW McLintock

UA has one significant downside: EWR. That's a dealbreaker for me.

-J.

Why? Sure it's not great (terrible lounges, too-narrow boarding areas at many gates in C), but it's infinitely easier to get to from Manhattan by car. I've never had it take more than ~40min to get there from midtown and have multiple times almost missed flights out of JFK after it taking ~2hr via car. In my experience on-time performance isn't much worse than JFK, at least for high-priority flights like widebody transcon.

AA has the best lounge situation with Flagships, but terminals 4 and 8 aren't particularly nice otherwise.

Jan 3, 2020, 5:19 pm

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The key word in your post is Manhattan. From Brooklyn, Queens (where I live), and arguably the east side of Manhattan, LGA and JFK are closer. Brooklyn and Queens are the most populous boroughs in NYC.

Depending on traffic, it takes me 12-20 minutes to get to LGA, 15-40 to JFK, and 60-100 (plus at least one toll) to EWR. Of course, that's just my situation; YMMV.

If UA flew to JFK with the 78X, they would give AA/DL/B6 a real run for their money.

-J.

Jan 3, 2020, 5:30 pm

#1642

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Originally Posted by GW McLintock

UA has one significant downside: EWR. That's a dealbreaker for me.

-J.

UA has another significant downside: UA. That's a dealbreaker for me

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Jan 4, 2020, 10:31 am

#1643

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

It looks like DL is kicking off another round of mods on the 763ERs - not sure what the mods involve in addition to adding in PS..the first plane ship 188 (N188DN) is on its way now to CAN from ANC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjnangre

Would be sweet if they're doing the same as the 764 (I know not everyone is a fan of the new 764, but I am

Based on some posts on a.net, these will get the following:
Adding Premium Economy
Refreshing Economy Seats
PED Power
New Lavatories
LED Lighting

New config will be C26Y+18W21Y151. D1 won't be receiving any updates.

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Jan 4, 2020, 5:21 pm

#1644

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Originally Posted by N515CR

D1 won't be receiving any updates.

That's disappointing

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Jan 4, 2020, 6:02 pm

#1645

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kjnangre

That's disappointing

I agree. I understand why they aren't doing it with the influx of new widebodies coming in, but DL does have a lot of 763's..

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Jan 4, 2020, 6:05 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by N515CR

Too bad. Once the 764s are done the 763 will be the weakest J product by a far margin amongst the wide bodies.

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Jan 4, 2020, 6:10 pm

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Originally Posted by cmd320

Too bad. Once the 764s are done the 763 will be the weakest J product by a far margin amongst the wide bodies.

Agreed. 763 J product is not competitive. And there are a lot of them. I'm kinda surprised

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Jan 4, 2020, 7:21 pm

#1648

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Quote:

Originally Posted by N515CR

Just to poke at this a bit more, the other thread specifically mentions the 76Z config, which is 26J (as mentioned above). It also says "Config going from C26W29Y171 (226) to C26Y+18W21Y151 (216)". Note in this context W and Y+ are swapped from their normal notation. (W typically refers to Premium Economy and Y+ to extra leg room Economy.) So the new config is expected to have 18 W/PS seats (presumably 3 rows of 2-2-2) and 21 Y+/C+ (presumably 3 rows of 2-3-2). (Compare to 20W/PS on the 764.)

Also of note, the 26J configuration doesn't serve the LAX market, which generally uses the 36J configuration. Assuming this change applies only to the 26J config then it suggests it may be some time before we see PS sold domestically. (Perhaps not surprisingly, but I would love to have it as an option on 5 hours flights where a lie flat seat is a bit unnecessary.)

Jan 4, 2020, 7:41 pm

#1649

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Originally Posted by bennos

Good points. My guess is these planes will be used on low-yield routes where there isn't a lot of demand for J and where competitor's have a weak J product. High-yield routes will get suites or reverse herringbones.

Jan 4, 2020, 7:44 pm

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Originally Posted by bennos

This is interesting to note because I definitely think there is a market for PS on domestic flights. It could cannibalize some J fares at least on some flights for sure.

Different data point, but I recently flew AA MCO-PHL only because AA was flying an A330. Ordinarily in this kind of situation I would buy Y and upfare to J. The AA 332 is equipped with premium economy though and in J this is basically a no service flight (drink and snack basket only) pretty much the same as PE (sold as main cabin extra on domestic). Basically you’re getting a seat better than a standard domestic F seat with pretty much the same level of service as the J cabin. That was enough for me to fly in PE rather than upfare all the way to J.

Assuming domestic Premium Select would look something like it does on international with a similar soft product to the J cabin, I would make sense that it would cut into some of the J traffic, especially on midday westbound flights.

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