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As a lowly FO, I did break down and buy a one-way non-refundable 7-day advance A ticket for a flight this weekend to fly back from a memorial service. Coach (also non-refundable) was only about $90 cheaper, so for almost five hours of flying and an extra 50% MQM/RDM... given that I'd pay that much in stickers to AA if my upgrade cleared with them, it was not a difficult decision.
I had an award for another airline going, but a Sunday in August meant there was no chance of an award on any airline coming back, much less LUT space. ETA:
Originally Posted by dcline414
(Post 19129804)
At some point Delta will have to roll out a mechanism that allows medallions to book the cheapest available fare (likely K+) and then pay the difference to upgrade in a separate transaction. Maybe if they limit the option to medallions until the flight is under gate control then there won't be the backlash that DL fears based on what they've seen happening over at UA.
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Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick
(Post 19137723)
The EC transaction is done that way... I just paid $7 on a busy ORD-DTW because only middles were left. Would be great if the buyup from T->QUP was done in the same way, without a reissuing fee.
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I'm a n00b so I'm not sure I'm getting this. What would be the advantage of paying 50% more for a Y fare over a P fare? |
Originally Posted by mudpuppy
(Post 19215093)
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I'm a n00b so I'm not sure I'm getting this. What would be the advantage of paying 50% more for a Y fare over a P fare? |
Originally Posted by mudpuppy
(Post 19215093)
I'm a n00b so I'm not sure I'm getting this. What would be the advantage of paying 50% more for a Y fare over a P fare?
Or, the FCM department might be exhibiting incompetence. |
Originally Posted by mudpuppy
(Post 19215093)
I'm a n00b so I'm not sure I'm getting this. What would be the advantage of paying 50% more for a Y fare over a P fare?
Y fares actually come with some perks for the price, unlike B fares. |
FCM or Just Weirdest Pricing EVER?
I went to book some flights next week, and was about to just buy the following nonstop Y ticket:
Fare 1: Carrier DL HD0ANSI ATL to BDL (rules) Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code H Fare 2: Carrier DL HD0ANSI BDL to ATL (rules) Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code H Total airfare & taxes $1,065.60 1716 total miles This is where it gets weird. AFTER clicking the final purchase button, I get a message telling me that the fare has changed (now under $1,000, still all in coach). I go to purchase this new itinerary, and the same thing happens AGAIN, but now with the last segment in A, and the price DOWN to under $900. It happens again a THIRD time, now with one of my outbound segments in P, and the back up to $1,000. Then a FOURTH time the website tells me the fare has changed, leaving me with every segment in a broken fare (outbound U,H,P and return L,L,P), with a fare of $1,063 ($2 cheaper than the original all-coach fare). This is what I was finally able to ticket successfully: ATL - TPA Nonstop DL 2191 Economy (U) TPA - BDL 1-Stop DL 234 Economy (H) DL 1510 First (P) BDL - MCO 1-Stop DL 4077 Economy (L) DL 2103 Economy (L) MCO - ATL Nonstop DL 925 First (P) Total balance due: $1,063.80 (USD) MQMs earned = 4472 |
BDL is a different airport than HFD and I don't believe HFD is a valid regional code (or whatever we call NYC, WAS, etc.). So weird that showed up in the rules.
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
(Post 19270339)
BDL is a different airport than HFD and I don't believe HFD is a valid regional code (or whatever we call NYC, WAS, etc.). So weird that showed up in the rules.
Still, it is an apples-to-apples comparison. Actually, in the booked itinerary I could have routed through ATL on both the outbound and the return (essentially adding an ATL-TPA-ATL trip and an ATL-MCI-ATL trip for free. But I'd rather route through other hubs that I don't see so often. |
Originally Posted by dcline414:19270842
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
(Post 19270339)
BDL is a different airport than HFD and I don't believe HFD is a valid regional code (or whatever we call NYC, WAS, etc.). So weird that showed up in the rules.
Still, it is an apples-to-apples comparison. Actually, in the booked itinerary I could have routed through ATL on both the outbound and the return (essentially adding an ATL-TPA-ATL trip and an ATL-MCI-ATL trip for free. But I'd rather route through other hubs that I don't see so often. |
Time is $
Since this is a client-paid trip, it's business. You are flying multiple extra segments (and time). As an example, as a WAS flyer, my rule of thumb is that unless an itinerary xBWI saves $500 over DCA, it's not worth the time & travel issues.
As to the cheap FC segments, chalk those up to individualized supply & demand. Was never sure what FCM really means in the context of an operating business which is supposed to monetize its product. |
Originally Posted by dcline414
(Post 19269168)
I went to book some flights next week, and was about to just buy the following nonstop Y ticket:
An ITA search told me that I could get A LOT more miles (and segments) for $50 less, flying ATL-TPA-DTW-BDL-CVG-MCO-ATL. I decided to go for it, so I pulled up the same flights and got the same price on Delta.com. This is where it gets weird. AFTER clicking the final purchase button, I get a message telling me that the fare has changed (now under $1,000, still all in coach). I go to purchase this new itinerary, and the same thing happens AGAIN, but now with the last segment in A, and the price DOWN to under $900. It happens again a THIRD time, now with one of my outbound segments in P, and the back up to $1,000. Then a FOURTH time the website tells me the fare has changed, leaving me with every segment in a broken fare (outbound U,H,P and return L,L,P), with a fare of $1,063 ($2 cheaper than the original all-coach fare). This is what I was finally able to ticket successfully: So I am getting 2 segments up front, 4 extra MQSs, 2,700 extra MQMs, and saving $2 in the process. Maybe this doesn't qualify as a mileage run in the traditional sense, but I am saving my client money and getting a negative cost per mile for the difference! :D Do you bill clients for your travel time? What if there are IROPs due to your taking unneeded connections? |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 19270900)
Do you bill clients for your travel time? What if there are IROPs due to your taking unneeded connections?
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 19270900)
This looks like three segments of FC to me: the one stop outbound connection from TPA to BDL in P and the final return segment MCO to ATL also in P.
Do you bill clients for your travel time? What if there are IROPs due to your taking unneeded connections? If there are IROPs, I just have to get to BDL by the following morning. I'm hoping that the 28 minute connection in TPA won't be an issue, but apparently it is legal. I only bill for time worked, so if I work on the plane than I bill my time worked, not total travel time. If I billed travel time, I would only charge for length of the nonstop direct flight. This does make me wonder about something though. Can you SDC to a nonstop flight when traveling on a broken fare itinerary if it's all on one PNR? And how does that work if you are in different cabins on the connecting flights? If the broken fares were all in A/P/F then could you SDC to a direct flight and stay in FC? |
Originally Posted by mbwmbw
(Post 19270864)
BDL is my airport. We hanging out when you come?
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