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tomsam Apr 28, 2024 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski (Post 36194504)
Have these payments been initiated by your property management company withdrawing an ACH payment from Bilt/WF OR by having Bilt/WF send an ACH payment. If the latter, perhaps you would be kind enough to reply to the questions above (in this post). Thank you.

The former - payment initiated by my HOA withdrawing from my Bilt account.

nexusCFX Apr 29, 2024 1:28 pm

Interesting situation. I had the card when it was issued by Evolve. Somehow there were some fraudulent charges ten days ago, card cancelled and new one sent. I just got the new one, and I got the email for "5X points for 5 days" which I thought was odd.

Checked my credit report and my Bilt account is showing as closed. I notice on the 5X points email that it says Bilt | Wells Fargo. I suspect my card had to be moved from Evolve to Wells Fargo as part of this process. I have a bad feeling that this new card is going to show up as a brand new account on my report, which sucks for 5/24 and age of accounts.

I never use this card anywhere physically so I don't know how it was successfully attacked, but if you do have an old Evolve card, be warned that if it needs to be replaced it seems you're going to be moved to WF.

josephstern Apr 29, 2024 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 36197536)
Interesting situation. I had the card when it was issued by Evolve. Somehow there were some fraudulent charges ten days ago, card cancelled and new one sent. I just got the new one, and I got the email for "5X points for 5 days" which I thought was odd.

Checked my credit report and my Bilt account is showing as closed. I notice on the 5X points email that it says Bilt | Wells Fargo. I suspect my card had to be moved from Evolve to Wells Fargo as part of this process. I have a bad feeling that this new card is going to show up as a brand new account on my report, which sucks for 5/24 and age of accounts.

I never use this card anywhere physically so I don't know how it was successfully attacked, but if you do have an old Evolve card, be warned that if it needs to be replaced it seems you're going to be moved to WF.

On the flip side, great way to get another 5x for 5 days if you have an Evolve version!

nexusCFX Apr 29, 2024 4:46 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 36197952)
On the flip side, great way to get another 5x for 5 days if you have an Evolve version!

Well, I didn't KNOW that was gonna happen so I hadn't lined up any spend. Now I've gotta come up with something! Probably gonna pay my car lease for the month and upcoming registration renewal at least.

Also, I don't really trust it so I did a bunch of transactions to hit the 5 I need, and I need to make sure they actually get 5X points before I put any big spend on.

josephstern Apr 29, 2024 4:59 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 36198018)
Well, I didn't KNOW that was gonna happen so I hadn't lined up any spend. Now I've gotta come up with something! Probably gonna pay my car lease for the month and upcoming registration renewal at least.

Also, I don't really trust it so I did a bunch of transactions to hit the 5 I need, and I need to make sure they actually get 5X points before I put any big spend on.

Buy some gift cards for your grocery store? Shouldn't be a charge to do so and you're just front-loading the spend a bit. That's what I often do in these situations.

Also maybe car insurance and utility/cellphone bills?

nexusCFX Apr 29, 2024 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 36198045)
Buy some gift cards for your grocery store? Shouldn't be a charge to do so and you're just front-loading the spend a bit. That's what I often do in these situations.

Also maybe car insurance and utility/cellphone bills?

I can already 4 or 5X a lot of things via gift cards cuz of Chase Ink Cash, so Bilt is kind of meh for that.

notquiteaff Apr 29, 2024 8:30 pm

Maybe there are other data points about the credit impact when cards moved from one issuer to another. E.g., Costco (Amex -> Citi).

Dr Jabadski Apr 29, 2024 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 36198018)
… Now I've gotta come up with something! ….

Pretty sure estimated tax payments can be paid at any time.

nexusCFX Apr 29, 2024 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski (Post 36198373)
Pretty sure estimated tax payments can be paid at any time.

Bilt is notorious for not awarding the rent day 2X for tax payments, claiming they are ineligible. Any recent DPs that the 5X works for them?

CApreppie Apr 29, 2024 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by notquiteaff (Post 36189154)
So the timeline as I understand it is:

Wed 4/17 (night) applied and approved
Fri 4/19 card shipped
Mon 4/22 card received

I don’t quite understand what you mean by “I registered” - perhaps when you received the card and confirmed that to WF? Other people seemed to indicate in the past that Bilt is tracking the shipment and that delivery triggers the email - which would still match your timeline.

Thanks!

I thought it was sent after I validated my card but must be when the the card arrives. My card arrived 4/22 but the 5x bonus lasted till 4/28.

Dr Jabadski Apr 30, 2024 5:43 am


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 36198407)
Bilt is notorious for not awarding the rent day 2X for tax payments, claiming they are ineligible. Any recent DPs that the 5X works for them?

Link in the Wiki:

Originally Posted by NYC Flyer (Post 35569915)
(9/11/23) It's already documented in this thread that tax payments qualify for bonus points (including the startup bonus). Keep in mind that the 5x offer is maximized with $12.5K in spend, not $10K.

Personally, in September 2023 I met the 5 day quasi-SUB with IRS payment of $6k and NYS payment of $4k (fees additional) then another NYS payment of $2.5k after reading the quote above.

notquiteaff May 1, 2024 6:11 am

PointQuest answers May 2024 (curated from r/biltrewards)

Honey: Food doesn't go bad

Memorial day: was not public holiday earlier

May Pole: European festival where they dance around what ?

Ottawa: Capital of Canada

Costume Department: New york Metropolitan museum

Kentucky Derby: Fastest two minutes in sports held every May

Q: The only letter that doesn’t appear in a US state

Vine: Lele Pons was the most followed woman on this app

The Office was not based in New York

Hummingbird is the only bird that can fly backwards

K represents Potassium

Unicorn: The national animal of Scotland


May the 4th be with you: Star Wars

Ryan gosling SNL skit: Papyrus

Taylor swift TTPD: Post Malone

Titanic Rose’s necklace: heart of ocean

sullim4 May 14, 2024 8:21 am

I went ahead and applied for this card. The transfers to Hyatt, Alaska, and FlyingBlue in addition to the 2x rent day bonus were enough to push me over the edge. Seems like a great complement to my Chase setup. I was approved; $30k limit, hard pull on EX. The card arrives on Saturday and I have some charges planned in the (hopefully likely?) event I get the 5x offer.

Adding the card to Apple Pay worked fine, although I was only able to add it to my phone. It won't add to my watch. I'm going to guess that's because the card's actual CVV doesn't match the temporary one that's in the app.

We are homeowners so the rent feature is sort of useless unless or until mortgage payments become a thing with Bilt. I plan on paying our water bill through the ACH system until then.

Dr Jabadski May 15, 2024 9:47 am

Interesting decision regarding Bilt, rent/condo payments and manufactured spend.

Just notified of a new assessment, $15,717 one-time (affordable) check only payment OR $308.22 added to monthly Bilt ACH payment for 60 months (total $18,493, ~18%). I’ll do all I can to have them do one-time payment by Bilt ACH but don’t expect success.

Much as I covet and adore miles and points, even with Bilt rent points being “free” (of additional fees) $2776 (over 5 years) seems like a high extra amount for an additional 18,493 Bilt points, ~$0.15 per point.

Wondering how others look at it. Thank you.

josephstern May 15, 2024 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski (Post 36235446)
Interesting decision regarding Bilt, rent/condo payments and manufactured spend.

Just notified of a new assessment, $15,717 one-time (affordable) check only payment OR $308.22 added to monthly Bilt ACH payment for 60 months (total $18,493, ~18%). I’ll do all I can to have them do one-time payment by Bilt ACH but don’t expect success.

Much as I covet and adore miles and points, even with Bilt rent points being “free” (of additional fees) $2776 (over 5 years) seems like a high extra amount for an additional 18,493 Bilt points, ~$0.15 per point.

Wondering how others look at it. Thank you.

I'd try pushing that through Bilt as a one-time expense. Worst case, I guess, they close you down. But more likely, they'd just not give you points for that expense.


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