Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
Last edit by: philemer
Personal Card
Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Barclays AAdvantage Aviator PERSONAL Card (2016 - 2023)
Nov 9, 2017, 9:57 am
#706
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: JFK
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 325
Applied today -- went pending. What's the latest wisdom on whether to recon?
Previous history with Barclaycard:
I'm at LOL/24 overall.
Previous history with Barclaycard:
- Arrival+ #1 opened 8/12/2015, PC to Barclaycard Rewards on 7/27/2016, sock drawered (kept alive with $1/yr purchases)
- Arrival+ #2 opened 11/8/2016, closed 5/31/2017
- Aviator #1 opened 2/15/2017, closed 9/22/2017
- JetBlue opened 11/8/2017 (earlier today)
- Aviator #2 applied 11/8/2017, pending
I'm at LOL/24 overall.
Nov 9, 2017, 10:04 am
#707
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 728
Called recon. Hard denial. Cited 6 new accounts (he listed them by name) in the last 6 months as too many. The 5th was JetBlue, so I seem to have hit upon Barclay's exact threshold, at least for my app profile. The language the rep used reminded me of Citi's 6/6 "soft limit". He encouraged me to re-apply after cooling off a bit.
Nov 9, 2017, 11:05 am
#708
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: JFK
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 325
He basically listed off all of my revolving accounts in reverse order by opening date. So, not specific to any CRA; not combining apps that were merged into a single HP. I don't have any new biz accounts in that time period, so I can't confirm just how Chase-like his criteria were.
Nov 9, 2017, 12:11 pm
#709
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 728
He basically listed off all of my revolving accounts in reverse order by opening date. So, not specific to any CRA; not combining apps that were merged into a single HP. I don't have any new biz accounts in that time period, so I can't confirm just how Chase-like his criteria were.
Nov 9, 2017, 12:47 pm
#710
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
I have 9 new cards in the last 6 months and was hoping to churn the aviator before the end of the month. Only 6 hard pulls show on TU over 24 months and TU score is 815 so maybe auto approval will work. Would also like to do the Jet Blue at same time but if that is going to auto go to recon I guess there is no sense in it.
Nov 9, 2017, 12:52 pm
#711
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
I've gotten several cards from Barclays after having cancelled all my previous cards from them. Always get automatic approval without having to call. I do however put some regular spend on each of their cards when I have them open.
Nov 9, 2017, 8:37 pm
#712
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 728
Understood but that was on recon. If you get auto approved that shouldn't come up. From everything I've read it is highly unlikely I can get auto approved for 2 cards at one so I guess I'll have to pick which one to go for. Can fly in/out of Miami so with a little planning and flexibility I actually get good use of AA miles to the Caribbean. Got roundtrip to ANC next summer in first for 60k too.
Nov 10, 2017, 6:13 pm
#713
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
As you can see not everyone is successful in getting a new card while still having the existing card open. Some folks also dont want to go thru the recon hassle and may still be denied. Just a few posts above yours, someone tried 3 times recon and is firmly denied on another card because he has an existing one.
I completely understand that view. Personally, I still find AA miles to be valuable, but for partner awards in F/J. Even then, it's a lot worse than it used to be, given that some partners are harder to book than in the past, and AA's abysmal availability for connecting domestic flights, and the new four-segment hard maximum per award. I would guess UA or AS would be the better choice, though, not DL. But I'm no expert in any of those.
Nov 11, 2017, 9:32 am
#714
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: BOS
Posts: 1,461
I applied for the card on Thursday, and got the "under review" message. I've had Barclay cards in the past, but don't currently have one. I applied on the same computer my spouse used earlier in the day, and he got instant approval. He does have another card from Barclay.
I was approved for a Sapphire card on the same day, but I don't see how that could have affected anything.
Am I right in assuming that this card arrives via US mail unless you pay the expedited fee?
I was approved for a Sapphire card on the same day, but I don't see how that could have affected anything.
Am I right in assuming that this card arrives via US mail unless you pay the expedited fee?
Nov 11, 2017, 4:59 pm
#715
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
I completely understand that view. Personally, I still find AA miles to be valuable, but for partner awards in F/J. Even then, it's a lot worse than it used to be, given that some partners are harder to book than in the past, and AA's abysmal availability for connecting domestic flights, and the new four-segment hard maximum per award. I would guess UA or AS would be the better choice, though, not DL. But I'm no expert in any of those.
Then I took a look at DL - lo and behold, there were seats at 65K on Virgin Atlantic, connected to Alitalia, in the height of Summer travel months June, Jul and Aug - virtually the whole month of June and July had the saver seats (2 no less) and 2/3 of August had 2 saaver seats too. Our desirable date had availability on Virgin while AA showed absolutely ZERO to anywhere in Europe it flew.
Sure, AA only charges 55K while DL charges 65K at that time, but what did it do me any good with 10K less miles when there was absolutely no seat even we were willing to go out of the way to get to FCO (for a Med cruise)?
Needless to say, that was a rude wake up call to debunk the myth I had in my mind about how bad DL was. Even back in 2013 we were able to book a DL saver on AZ and AF with a stopover and an OJ for a trip entered at Stockholm, OJ between Stockholm and Moscow, with stopover/destination at Amsterdam and then back to US - tried that with AA, and that was in 2013... Hence I posted on AA forum to rant about AA was the new DL when DL was much better than in the past.
DL is very dynamic - both the long haul and the short distance, there are times you wonder if you are looking at DL site when some unbelievable prices pop up - in a good way, such as 6K between South Florida and Upstate New York in coach.... Again, try that with AA.
We still have a combined balance of 700K in our AA accounts. They are primarily used on QR flights using the 3rd region exception rules for EU-Australia via DOH QR to QR, or US to South Africa via DOH. But we have done 3 trips to South Africa in 3 consecutive years, 1 trip to Middle East and 1 trip EU to Australia - so the usefulness of QR is running out. With AB bit the dust and AY is near impossible to book, I dont know how good the AA miles would be for US-EU trips. To Asia, the AS miles still far superior... Hence there is no reason to pay $89 for the 10K anniversary miles. Just get a new card for far less cost.
Nov 11, 2017, 5:59 pm
#717
Nov 12, 2017, 2:38 pm
#718
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 564
Wiki says offer ends 11/30. Is that the "apply by" date or the "approved by" date? If I go pending and don't call, it could take a while between application and approval.
Nov 12, 2017, 8:39 pm
#719
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Btw, I never had the 10k anniversary bonus on my US->Aviator card anyway. For those that had it, I can see how it was of value during the "dead years" between when you could last apply for a US card and when you could first apply for an Aviator card, but I don't see it's big value any more for most churners.
Nov 12, 2017, 10:33 pm
#720
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,285
I agree, sdsearch, there's very little reason to keep an Aviator Red card with the 10k annual bonus miles now that Barclays is offering new Aviator Red sign-ups at 40k to 60k bonus. As a churner I am dropping both of my legacy cards as their 10k bonuses post and will apply for a new card once they're both gone. If I were not churning, for example to get below 5/24 for Chase, then I would keep the legacy 10k cards and not apply for anything new with Barclay. Though passing up this churnable Aviator card seems like a big sacrifice just to qualify for a Chase card sometime in the future....