Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
Last edit by: philemer
Personal Card
Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Barclays AAdvantage Aviator PERSONAL Card (2016 - 2023)
Oct 10, 2017, 8:38 pm
#631
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 119
I have an Arrival card, and plan to cancel it before applying for an Aviator card to increase the chances of an automatic approval. How long does it normally take for the credit from a cancelled card to go "back into the pool?"
Oct 10, 2017, 9:03 pm
#632
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MEL KUL
Programs: AA
Posts: 154
The wife had very little love from Barclays during the US Airways days, had only one approval in 2013 then denied beyond that. Card was closed back in 2014.
As of now the wife has ~800 FICO score, no other cards open with Barclays, instant approval for the 60k offer.
Now I'm tempted to apply but I still have my Aviator Red from 2 years ago...
As of now the wife has ~800 FICO score, no other cards open with Barclays, instant approval for the 60k offer.
Now I'm tempted to apply but I still have my Aviator Red from 2 years ago...
Oct 10, 2017, 9:07 pm
#633
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,577
Do you have any other Barclay cards currently open while applying for the 60k AA? This also seems to be a key point.
Oct 10, 2017, 9:40 pm
#634
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
The wife had very little love from Barclays during the US Airways days, had only one approval in 2013 then denied beyond that. Card was closed back in 2014.
As of now the wife has ~800 FICO score, no other cards open with Barclays, instant approval for the 60k offer.
Now I'm tempted to apply but I still have my Aviator Red from 2 years ago...
As of now the wife has ~800 FICO score, no other cards open with Barclays, instant approval for the 60k offer.
Now I'm tempted to apply but I still have my Aviator Red from 2 years ago...
Doesn't hurt to try applying. From what I know, a hardpull isn't done with a denial (don't quote me on this though as I'm not 100% sure). And as a dp, I have an Aviator Red that was opened in December 2016 (still have it) and got approved on September 18 for another Aviator Red.
Oct 10, 2017, 9:54 pm
#635
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 790
Doesn't hurt to try applying. From what I know, a hardpull isn't done with a denial (don't quote me on this though as I'm not 100% sure). And as a dp, I have an Aviator Red that was opened in December 2016 (still have it) and got approved on September 18 for another Aviator Red.
I got the Aviator Red in January of this year (first Barclays experience ever) and I still have it. Got a nice, fat deny from Barclays literally 1 month ago on an Arrival+ app (not that I am unique with this) and my TransUnion hard pull from the deny still shows.
Normally I don't care about TU too much, but I'm already up to 4 in less than a year from the 2 Barclays, a T-Mobile inquiry, and Chase somehow pulled it on me!
Oct 10, 2017, 10:25 pm
#637
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Delta Platinum Medallion, Hyatt Explorist, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 313
I applied for the US Airways card roughly a week before new card applications were closed (I think around March 2015). That was autochanged to the Aviator Red. I can't remember when but I cancelled that a couple months after I got the bonus.
Oct 11, 2017, 1:16 pm
#638
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
Doesn't hurt to try applying. From what I know, a hardpull isn't done with a denial (don't quote me on this though as I'm not 100% sure). And as a dp, I have an Aviator Red that was opened in December 2016 (still have it) and got approved on September 18 for another Aviator Red.
Woah, I've met a unicorn.
I got the Aviator Red in January of this year (first Barclays experience ever) and I still have it. Got a nice, fat deny from Barclays literally 1 month ago on an Arrival+ app (not that I am unique with this) and my TransUnion hard pull from the deny still shows.
Normally I don't care about TU too much, but I'm already up to 4 in less than a year from the 2 Barclays, a T-Mobile inquiry, and Chase somehow pulled it on me!
I got the Aviator Red in January of this year (first Barclays experience ever) and I still have it. Got a nice, fat deny from Barclays literally 1 month ago on an Arrival+ app (not that I am unique with this) and my TransUnion hard pull from the deny still shows.
Normally I don't care about TU too much, but I'm already up to 4 in less than a year from the 2 Barclays, a T-Mobile inquiry, and Chase somehow pulled it on me!
A hard pull is certainly done for (almost?) all other kinds of denials.
Oct 12, 2017, 6:04 pm
#640
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Tennessee
Programs: SPG, Marriott, United, SWA, AA
Posts: 700
Data points.
I had the US Airways card which was later converted to Aviator. I closed this card in July. Applied today for the new one got instant approval.
My wife also had the same US Air card that was converted to Aviator. She closed hers in Jan 2017 and also got instant approval as well. Hope this helps.
I had the US Airways card which was later converted to Aviator. I closed this card in July. Applied today for the new one got instant approval.
My wife also had the same US Air card that was converted to Aviator. She closed hers in Jan 2017 and also got instant approval as well. Hope this helps.
Oct 12, 2017, 10:27 pm
#641
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
On top of that, since 3rd week of Sept there is virtual no success DP on the approval of 2nd Aviator while still have one without going thru recon (with mixed results).
I honestly think people whether posting or reading, should pay close attention on the timeline of events when it comes to the approval of a second Aviator while still holding the existing one. All success DPs before late Sept can basically discarded, as the norm now is instant denial. Some can get it overturn by calling recon which all depends on which agent you get / how many HUCA you are willing to go thru. A friend has the US Airway turned Aviator Red for 4 years. He just got an instant denial. The first call to recon was unsuccessful. Since he has a trip to go (left yesterday for EU), he decided to let it cool until returning from trip.
Not having an Aviator now, even though the cancellation is within this year, seems to still work to get the current offer IF you do not have Barclays application the past 4 to 6 months, and not many other new accounts either.
Last edited by Happy; Oct 12, 2017 at 10:33 pm
Oct 13, 2017, 2:23 am
#642
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 229
Data points.
I had the US Airways card which was later converted to Aviator. I closed this card in July. Applied today for the new one got instant approval.
My wife also had the same US Air card that was converted to Aviator. She closed hers in Jan 2017 and also got instant approval as well. Hope this helps.
I had the US Airways card which was later converted to Aviator. I closed this card in July. Applied today for the new one got instant approval.
My wife also had the same US Air card that was converted to Aviator. She closed hers in Jan 2017 and also got instant approval as well. Hope this helps.
I can see why people cancel their converted card if it doesn't come with the anniversary bonus. Especially now Barclays allows you to get a new 60k Aviator when you are not holding one. But if the converted card still gives you 10k every year, won't it make the decision-making somewhat difficult?
Oct 13, 2017, 2:44 am
#643
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 229
This is VERY TRUE.
On top of that, since 3rd week of Sept there is virtual no success DP on the approval of 2nd Aviator while still have one without going thru recon (with mixed results).
I honestly think people whether posting or reading, should pay close attention on the timeline of events when it comes to the approval of a second Aviator while still holding the existing one. All success DPs before late Sept can basically discarded, as the norm now is instant denial. Some can get it overturn by calling recon which all depends on which agent you get / how many HUCA you are willing to go thru. A friend has the US Airway turned Aviator Red for 4 years. He just got an instant denial. The first call to recon was unsuccessful. Since he has a trip to go (left yesterday for EU), he decided to let it cool until returning from trip.
Not having an Aviator now, even though the cancellation is within this year, seems to still work to get the current offer IF you do not have Barclays application the past 4 to 6 months, and not many other new accounts either.
On top of that, since 3rd week of Sept there is virtual no success DP on the approval of 2nd Aviator while still have one without going thru recon (with mixed results).
I honestly think people whether posting or reading, should pay close attention on the timeline of events when it comes to the approval of a second Aviator while still holding the existing one. All success DPs before late Sept can basically discarded, as the norm now is instant denial. Some can get it overturn by calling recon which all depends on which agent you get / how many HUCA you are willing to go thru. A friend has the US Airway turned Aviator Red for 4 years. He just got an instant denial. The first call to recon was unsuccessful. Since he has a trip to go (left yesterday for EU), he decided to let it cool until returning from trip.
Not having an Aviator now, even though the cancellation is within this year, seems to still work to get the current offer IF you do not have Barclays application the past 4 to 6 months, and not many other new accounts either.
TIA!
Oct 13, 2017, 9:01 am
#644
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,727
I can see why people cancel their converted card if it doesn't come with the anniversary bonus. Especially now Barclays allows you to get a new 60k Aviator when you are not holding one. But if the converted card still gives you 10k every year, won't it make the decision-making somewhat difficult?
Oct 13, 2017, 11:21 am
#645
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
Is there enough data points yet to determine how long after closing one should wait to successfully reapply for the bonus ?