2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#1291
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: California
Posts: 1,129
No way. Look for links here on FT, not at the bloggers for the best offers. I'm here to line my own pockets with the most miles possible. Even if the sub-optimal links are fully disclosed, you might accidentally browser cache the link with the worse offer and losing thousands of miles. This is also why private browsing is a good idea when using FT links to apply.
#1292
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
No way. Look for links here on FT, not at the bloggers for the best offers. I'm here to line my own pockets with the most miles possible. Even if the sub-optimal links are fully disclosed, you might accidentally browser cache the link with the worse offer and losing thousands of miles. This is also why private browsing is a good idea when using FT links to apply.
I'd rather lose 5k miles than give the bloggers more money.
#1293
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: AA, UA, SQ, VA, QF, AF, BA
Posts: 2,865
To update the results of today's AOR:
This AOR I want in order of importance:
Chase Ink Bold or Plus - approved on recon, moved credit from CSP
Chase Freedom (for 5x) - approved on recon, moved credit from BA Visa. They didn't make me close any existing accounts.
Amex PRG 25k - used Creditcards.com, got spooked when the sign up bonus didn't appear on the app. There was a phone # 877-915-6387 so I called and applied on the phone. CSR confirmed bonus and approved card.
Citi MC, 35k with $1500 spend (can't do too much spending all at once) - went to pending
Barclays Arrival - went to pending.
Last I heard, conventional wisdom was to leave Citi and Barclays alone if they go to pending and let them work through the system. Is this still the case?
This AOR I want in order of importance:
Chase Ink Bold or Plus - approved on recon, moved credit from CSP
Chase Freedom (for 5x) - approved on recon, moved credit from BA Visa. They didn't make me close any existing accounts.
Amex PRG 25k - used Creditcards.com, got spooked when the sign up bonus didn't appear on the app. There was a phone # 877-915-6387 so I called and applied on the phone. CSR confirmed bonus and approved card.
Citi MC, 35k with $1500 spend (can't do too much spending all at once) - went to pending
Barclays Arrival - went to pending.
Last I heard, conventional wisdom was to leave Citi and Barclays alone if they go to pending and let them work through the system. Is this still the case?
#1294
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
No way. Look for links here on FT, not at the bloggers for the best offers. I'm here to line my own pockets with the most miles possible. Even if the sub-optimal links are fully disclosed, you might accidentally browser cache the link with the worse offer and losing thousands of miles. This is also why private browsing is a good idea when using FT links to apply.
#1295
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
WHen my partner went out for the Citi AA biz card, he got the pending, and he called in, the CSR asked him three questions (he is a realtor) and was approved with a very high CL. I also have read that calling Citi doesn't help, so I'm not too sure if this only works for personnel cards.
#1296
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 52
Starting to figure this out a bit, but still a question bout churnning. Do you have to close an account to churn or is downgrading to a free non airline/hotel branded card enough to reset the clock?
#1298
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: LAS
Programs: Southwest, United, Marriott
Posts: 160
120,000 points is valuable to me in exchange for 2 hard pulls. I will be using them on repeat vacations at Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Average category one hotel down in Jacksonville.
#1300
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
I have recently started renewing my interest in the Hilton program for average stays. Their points+money can offer phenomenal value. If you + SO get the citi reserve, then it's 2 nights per year (1 night stays are a pain) that could be used for nice locations and the points earned in that process for points+money. Plus if you manufacture spend via the amex cards you can really go very far. IME HHonors Gold is the most meaningful status that can be obtained with CCs.
Last edited by flyer4512; Jul 30, 2013 at 7:14 pm
#1301
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 59
I did my one and only AoR in 2007 (applied 18, approved 15) and, honestly, had forgotten all about the concept until I started considering how to pay for my upcoming wedding and honeymoon.
Primary Goal
Honeymoon in Spain in late February 2014. So, pay for business/first class travel from Austin to Madrid, then return from Barcelona and hotel stays using miles/points. Additionally, my future bride travels annually to/from Poland and we have a post-wedding trip planned for Fall 2014, so I need to set up points for that, too.
Current Points/Miles of Any Significance
Current Cards (all personal, AAoA: 8y2m)
AmEx
BofA
CapOne
Chase
Citi
Discover
Other
Other Notes
Current AoR Target Cards
AMEX
BARCLAY
BOFA (not sure this is really worth the effort, but couldn't find any other BofA card)
CAPITAL ONE (ditto the BofA comment)
CHASE
CITI
USBANK
Thoughts?
Many Thanks!
Primary Goal
Honeymoon in Spain in late February 2014. So, pay for business/first class travel from Austin to Madrid, then return from Barcelona and hotel stays using miles/points. Additionally, my future bride travels annually to/from Poland and we have a post-wedding trip planned for Fall 2014, so I need to set up points for that, too.
Current Points/Miles of Any Significance
- AA - 23K
- Marriott - 58K
- SPG - 114K
- Amex MR - 110K
Current Cards (all personal, AAoA: 8y2m)
AmEx
- AmEx SPG
- AmEx Blue Cash
BofA
- BankAmericard Cash Rewards Signature Visa
- BofA World Points Platinum Plus
- BankAmericard Rewards World MC
CapOne
- Sony Card Visa Signature
Chase
- Chase Freedom
- Chase MC Platinum
Citi
- Citi Gold Aadvantage World MC (oldest card at 22 years)
- Citi Diamond Preferred
- Citi Professional
- AT&T Universal Rewards
- Sears MasterCard
Discover
- Discover Miles
- Discover More
Other
- PNC Bank Select Rewards Visa Platinum
- Dillards AmEx (managed by GEMB)
Other Notes
- Inquiries: TU - 1, EX - 1, EQ - 7 (most recent: Dec 2011)
- Utilization: 5% of $300K
- My AOR in 2007 was strictly for personal cards as I wasn't comfortable applying for business cards without a business. Since then, I've started a modest business and will go after these more earnestly.
- I've already booked the hotel rooms using Marriott and SPG points. The balances above are post those transactions.
- Based on what I've researched, my best option appears to be AA, requiring either 200K or 300K. So, I need either AA points or other points that can be easily converted to AA.
- I can't see a compelling reason to add another Discover card and the BofA and CapOne cards are a stretch.
Current AoR Target Cards
AMEX
- SPG Biz (25K SPG)
- Is another SPG personal possible? If so, then, great, SPG personal (25K SPG). If not, then...
- Hilton Hhonors Surpass (60K Hilton)
BARCLAY
- UsAir Personal (35K US)
- USAir Biz (25K US)
BOFA (not sure this is really worth the effort, but couldn't find any other BofA card)
- Virgin Atlantic Amex (45K VA)
CAPITAL ONE (ditto the BofA comment)
- Spark Miles Biz (10K points)
- QuickSilver Cash Rewards Visa ($100)
CHASE
- IHG Priority Club (80K IHG) [our wedding is being held in an IHG property]
- Ink Plus Biz (50K UR)
CITI
- AA Visa (50K AA)
- +8 days, if it's still going on, AA Visa (50K AA)
- If it's still going on in Oct, AA Visa (50K AA) x2
- If not, then, AA Visa Biz (40K AA) & Platinum MC (40K AA)
USBANK
- Club Carlson Biz (85K CC)
- Club Carlson Personal (85K CC)
Thoughts?
Many Thanks!
#1303
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
I also agree to cut what you are looking at in half, just because you have all those (current) cards, you might not be able to get what you want because of all of those cards.
#1304
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 352
My mini app-o-rama...
Chase Sapphire Preffered 40,000 bonus (never had it before) auto approved
AMEX SPG 25,000 bonus (never had it) auto approved
Citi AA Platinum (have 2 current Citi AA cards still open) had to move some funds around on my other AA card but then approved 50,000 bonus. Did this all via chat instantly which was so much nicer than doing it via the phone.
Wife auto approved for all 3 above. Nice little haul for now. Starting to run out of things to apply for in bunches outside of Chase still having good offers which I don't have all of yet and/or my time of being able to get an offer again.
I have great credit but I still feel like a school boy when I hit submit waiting for that great "approved" message. Also expecting for this to all come to a stop some day and me having to actually pay for travel someday too.
Chase Sapphire Preffered 40,000 bonus (never had it before) auto approved
AMEX SPG 25,000 bonus (never had it) auto approved
Citi AA Platinum (have 2 current Citi AA cards still open) had to move some funds around on my other AA card but then approved 50,000 bonus. Did this all via chat instantly which was so much nicer than doing it via the phone.
Wife auto approved for all 3 above. Nice little haul for now. Starting to run out of things to apply for in bunches outside of Chase still having good offers which I don't have all of yet and/or my time of being able to get an offer again.
I have great credit but I still feel like a school boy when I hit submit waiting for that great "approved" message. Also expecting for this to all come to a stop some day and me having to actually pay for travel someday too.
#1305
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
LOL, yes, like you I get a little excited when I get the "approved" screen.