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sfogate Nov 19, 2009 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12848442)
CO buying Kraft, that would be quite something, really diversify the business :D

@:-) Cheese soup on every flight. :D

Steph3n Nov 19, 2009 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by sfogate (Post 12848526)
@:-) Cheese soup on every flight. :D

SEe not that much would change afterall :D

bdjohns1 Nov 19, 2009 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12848479)
on the other hand, I am not sure why some companies that do a lot of shipping DON'T buy an airline. Coke/Pepsi/Kraft could all be candidates for buying a passenger airline and using it for shipping goods many times, while using their own product lines on the onboard experience.

Probably because it would be horribly inefficient to ship our goods by air. Max payload of a 744 is around 250K pounds. One cheese plant I used to work with would require 2-3 outbounds every day to service their tonnages (and I'm pretty sure ART, the nearest airport would have a hard time with 744s given they only have a 5,000 foot runway). A Coke bottler would be even worse off.

Midwest Express started as the corporate jet service for Kimberly-Clark, though, so there is precedent for consumer goods companies to be involved with airlines.

I know we have done some marketing tie-ups with airlines in the past to get our products into the BOB selections.

Olton Hall Nov 19, 2009 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12848542)
I know we have done some marketing tie-ups with airlines in the past to get our products into the BOB selections.

Doesn't AC have mac and cheese, or what ever they call it up there, for BOB?

Steph3n Nov 19, 2009 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12848542)
Probably because it would be horribly inefficient to ship our goods by air. Max payload of a 744 is around 250K pounds. One cheese plant I used to work with would require 2-3 outbounds every day to service their tonnages (and I'm pretty sure ART, the nearest airport would have a hard time with 744s given they only have a 5,000 foot runway). A Coke bottler would be even worse off.

Midwest Express started as the corporate jet service for Kimberly-Clark, though, so there is precedent for consumer goods companies to be involved with airlines.

I know we have done some marketing tie-ups with airlines in the past to get our products into the BOB selections.

actually my initial thinking on this was several months ago with tech services companies that mostly ship light weight items and people, and express delivery of certain hardware in some cases.

And airline could be bought for cheap at today's market, and as long as you can keep it from bleeding(and I think such can be done much better than we see right now) it could be a venture that works.

bdjohns1 Nov 19, 2009 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12848558)
Doesn't AC have mac and cheese, or what ever they call it up there, for BOB?

Wouldn't surprise me. That would be a good BOB product. Just add hot water.

colpuck Nov 19, 2009 2:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall

Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12848542)
I know we have done some marketing tie-ups with airlines in the past to get our products into the BOB selections.

Doesn't AC have mac and cheese, or what ever they call it up there, for BOB?

I thought it was a cup o noodles.

cheepneezy Nov 19, 2009 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12848423)
The CO Globe design could be shopped onto the texture of Mr. Peanut's belly. The monocle would also be pretty cool. :-:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/...fae9ae7b_o.jpg

bdjohns1 Nov 19, 2009 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12848562)
And airline could be bought for cheap at today's market, and as long as you can keep it from bleeding(and I think such can be done much better than we see right now) it could be a venture that works.

Well, for comparison purposes, you can transport ~42K lbs of goods via refrigerated trailer for <$2/mile.

We do actually own a sizeable fleet of trucks for that purpose, as do many other large manufacturing companies.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 19, 2009 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by cheepneezy (Post 12848572)

I knew our resident Photochopper would come through in the clutch. ^ :D

bdjohns1 Nov 19, 2009 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by cheepneezy (Post 12848572)

Genius. Next time I'm in NJ at the Planters division offices, I'm bringing that! :D

Olton Hall Nov 19, 2009 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12848570)
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I thought it was a cup o noodles.

They have that. I thought Kraft mac and cheese was a daily staple for Canadians?

Steph3n Nov 19, 2009 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12848586)
Well, for comparison purposes, you can transport ~42K lbs of goods via refrigerated trailer for <$2/mile.

We do actually own a sizeable fleet of trucks for that purpose, as do many other large manufacturing companies.

Yes but software/hardware/services companies are a different story in heavy item shipping :) also have a lot of people to send around.

icurhere2 Nov 19, 2009 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12848602)
They have that. I thought Kraft mac and cheese was a daily staple for Canadians?

Need to call it by the Canadian name of "Kraft Dinner".

Steph3n Nov 19, 2009 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12848622)
Need to call it by the Canadian name of "Kraft Dinner".

It isn't Canadian Meal v 2.0? :)


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