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CO 1E Mar 9, 2009 3:15 pm

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 11386630)
what's better on VS the 744 or the 346?

I marginally prefer the 346. 744 upstairs is nice, though, especially now that it is all UC. Why not try them both?

Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:17 pm

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 11386630)
what's better on VS the 744 or the 346?

Depends on which class.

ConciergeMike Mar 9, 2009 3:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11386674)
The casinos paid for the rail cars as well as the nicer interiors so there was no loss of cars to NJT. The desiel locos were also paid for by the by the casinos but NJT can use them Mon-Thurs. if they want.

Typical Atlantic City once again: cut a few thousand jobs so as to pay for a train that no one is riding. I know that's an unwarranted cheap shot, but it was fun to write.

rolov Mar 9, 2009 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 11386630)
what's better on VS the 744 or the 346?

Depends on which class.

I think he was asking about uc

fozz Mar 9, 2009 3:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11386674)
The casinos paid for the rail cars as well as the nicer interiors so there was no loss of cars to NJT. The desiel locos were also paid for by the by the casinos but NJT can use them Mon-Thurs. if they want. Now the electic locos are a different issue. Not really a problem for Saturday and Sunday but I can see there being issues with Friday as this now forces the maintenane guys to have one more loco in working order instead of sitting around waiting for them to work on it.

I had no idea, that's interesting. So, I wonder if NJT gets to keep them when ACES fails.

Oh, wait, this in NJ. They'll have to pay a 25% mark-up from the original cost and won't have a choice in the matter. :D

Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:20 pm

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11386700)
Typical Atlantic City once again: cut a few thousand jobs so as to pay for a train that no one is riding.

They paid up a few years ago so that's the only reason they put it in service. It would help if they actaully advertised it in the slightest but I guess the casinos don't know their customer base to even have considered it to have been a good idea.

rolov Mar 9, 2009 3:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall
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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 11386630)
what's better on VS the 744 or the 346?

Depends on which class.

I think he was asking about uc

rolov Mar 9, 2009 3:21 pm

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Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:22 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11386709)
I had no idea, that's interesting. So, I wonder if NJT gets to keep them when ACES fails.

Oh, wait, this in NJ. They'll have to pay a 25% mark-up from the original cost and won't have a choice in the matter. :D

They can keep them but it will cost a lot to put the regular seats in as I'm sure they won't keep 12sets of seats around and have to special order them at 50X the normal price.

Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:24 pm

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I know PE was nice when it was upstairs so i'd say upstairs on a 744 for UC but other wise there's the giant UC section on the A346.

ConciergeMike Mar 9, 2009 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11386709)
I had no idea, that's interesting. So, I wonder if NJT gets to keep them when ACES fails.

Oh, wait, this in NJ. They'll have to pay a 25% mark-up from the original cost and won't have a choice in the matter. :D

Would be much funnier if it wasn't so likely to be way too close to the truth.

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11386710)
They paid up a few years ago so that's the only reason they put it in service. It would help if they actaully advertised it in the slightest but I guess the casinos don't know their customer base to even have considered it to have been a good idea.

There's a ridiculous amount of casino traffic from North Jersey and the five boroughs, and even a little bit outlying on LI. I think I've seen a Mastic driver's license. There are people who drive 4+ hours and can eliminate the drive by combining LIRR and ACES. I'd be willing to hazard a guess that the lack of advertising has something to do with the lack of parking garage revenue that would accompany a large-scale use of the train. IIRC parking garage monies when the casino charges the flat $5 go to the deceptively named Atlantic City Improvement Fund, and anything over $5 during peak events is (I think) casino profit. Now you know why Trump Plaza almost always charges $20 for self park...oh right, they're in Chapter 11. Could people refusing to park there and then being too lazy to leave their hotels and go play there have something to do with it? Nah - blame the smoking ban and PA slot parlors. I find it hilarious that Harrah's cited PA slot parlors as a competitive issue when they own one. Such a case is also further proof that a real hotelier would never get a top job in AC, as nearly all of the executives are ex-floorpeople.

baglady Mar 9, 2009 3:25 pm

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I liked the 744 upstairs better


Done both and agree.

fozz Mar 9, 2009 3:29 pm

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Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11386741)
Done both and agree.

I may have to try both and see for myself, plus I don't have the 340-600 as a type on my FM yet. :D

Xyzzy Mar 9, 2009 3:30 pm

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11386650)
I don't see the point of this. Sure, it would probably be an IT headache to combine a debit of miles and a real financial transaction in the same record...but cashing miles in is still reducing a liability and if I were the airline, I'd be doing everything I could to encourage customers of my airline to assist me in reducing my liabilities. I know that's a simplistic way of looking at it, but I just now thought to expound on the topic.

If you thought you could take in more $ by forcing customers to use $ instead of last minute and one way tix you'd do that too, right? Note that they don't allow booking within 7 days of travel either... This looks good. If only ANA had instant xfers from Amex like CO and a few others...

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Mar 9, 2009 3:30 pm

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