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Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11386737)
There's a ridiculous amount of casino traffic from North Jersey and the five boroughs, and even a little bit outlying on LI. I think I've seen a Mastic driver's license. There are people who drive 4+ hours and can eliminate the drive by combining LIRR and ACES. I'd be willing to hazard a guess that the lack of advertising has something to do with the lack of parking garage revenue that would accompany a large-scale use of the train.

I think it's lack of advertising is by far their number one issue. Cost of the service is problem number 2. Infrequent service is number 3. 4th, it's a long train ride, and 5th and final issue, it only stops at NYP and Newark.

Why do all that when you can hop a cheaper bus and it's faster.

Xyzzy Mar 9, 2009 3:32 pm

We should have an ACES D:rolleyes:!

Xyzzy Mar 9, 2009 3:33 pm

My *WOOD card has arrived:

Moderator, but not moderate
Penalty Box Platinum
Member, team :rolleyes:

belynch Mar 9, 2009 3:33 pm

Someone, please, just shoot me.

Xyzzy Mar 9, 2009 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11386787)
Someone, please, just shoot me.

Bang! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Olton Hall Mar 9, 2009 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11386787)
Someone, please, just shoot me.

How much longer are they claiming?

colpuck Mar 9, 2009 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 11386678)
I marginally prefer the 346. 744 upstairs is nice, though, especially now that it is all UC. Why not try them both?

Just to make my life easier I think.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Mar 9, 2009 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11386786)
My *WOOD card has arrived:

I hope mine is there when I get home. Time for new wallet candy! :D

CO 1E Mar 9, 2009 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11386741)
Done both and agree.

Upon further reflection, I prefer the 744 upper deck to the 346. Avoid the 343, though.

ConciergeMike Mar 9, 2009 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11386780)
I think it's lack of advertising is by far their number one issue. Cost of the service is problem number 2. Infrequent service is number 3. 4th, it's a long train ride, and 5th and final issue, it only stops at NYP and Newark.

Why do all that when you can hop a cheaper bus and it's faster.

Ordinarily, you make good points. But you're looking at it like a normal problem and not one that has something to do with gaming. The parking garage money is a slush fund for the powerful. The powerful don't like when the forecast calls for less slush.

Lack of advertising is probably now an economic choice, but if it wasn't, the advertising would be lobbied against privately by people with their hand in the cookie jar.

Cost of service would have been almost even when gas was at $4.

Infrequent service is a nonissue because it's designed to be a weekend shuttle for the upscale gaming market and that's it. The casinos think that the train is easier than driving or bussing, but they're ignorant of the fact that buses give out slot coupons when the train does not (that I know of).

Stopping at NYP and Newark is also not the issue you think it is. The target market is NYC and surrounding. While I could see people refusing to park at Newark, NYP is an easy gateway for many of the people that the ACCVA had in mind when cooking up this idea.

belynch Mar 9, 2009 3:47 pm

Delay is approaching 6x longer than actual flight time.

A big, fat, :rolleyes:

ConciergeMike Mar 9, 2009 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11386864)
Delay is approaching 6x longer than actual flight time.

A big, fat, :rolleyes:

Take the three-hour rule and punch out...then get on a train.

baglady Mar 9, 2009 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11386813)
I hope mine is there when I get home. Time for new wallet candy! :D


Mine was not in the mail :(

sbm12 Mar 9, 2009 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11386787)
Someone, please, just shoot me.

This is why one takes Amtrak home from DC in the afternoon. Acela really is quite nice.

monitor Mar 9, 2009 4:17 pm

But he also could be sitting in the front cabin of a DL E-175, sucking on a drink and snoozing. Forget about fighting your way across the district for the Acela. Once the work day is over, I just want to fall down and don't care what happens as long as they get me home eventually.


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