Yup.

I also think that Japan chose not to issue that certification even though other countries did so flights to/from Japan had different ETOPs regulations. Or something like that.

I'm also not entirely sure why CO would go ETOPS 330 on their aircraft. There are very, very, very few routes that really need that level of rating and even fewer from CONUS. It is much more significant for southern hemisphere routes.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?MS=wls&DU...&EV=410&EU=kts

CO is opening a hub in SCL to go head-to-head with LAN. :-:

Boeing had to fight rather hard to have ETOPS-180 at delivery time given some of the routes that the initial batch of customers wanted to fly. The Boeing engineers begged the FAA to demonstrate the certain duration of time while the aircraft was still in testing, and the FAA agreed. Karl Sabbagh's book covers this very well.

Then there was also the pesky request by (who else) BA...they would not sign the contracts to buy the 777 until Boeing took one at full MTOW and aborted a takeoff at the max published abort speed. This apparently had something to do with BA's desire to use the type on DFW-LHR.

Maybe that's the whole point. Think about it a little backwards: given the range the aircraft is supposed to have, it would only make sense for it to have the largest ETOPS possible so that an airline could have the thing fly essentially anywhere.

We must be sync'ing the same things. Agreed "The Cave" is amazing as well.

For those that haven't clicked on the linky link, we're talking about Mumford + Sons (no, not your local plumber). Best way to describe them is Dave Matthews meets the Avett Brothers with a dash of Dropkick Murphys. Pure Awesome.

Sure, but ETOPS is partly the way the plane is built and partly what the airlines do in terms of equipping it and operating it on a daily basis. Higher ETOPS generally means more (expensive) gear operationally. If you're not going to be able to take advantage of the 330 then why go through the extra operational costs?

From CONUS the only routes that need it are NZ and Oz and those only barely need it. Everything else - Africa, S. America, Europe, Asia, Middle East - can all be covered with 180. It wouldn't surprise me that Boeing wants it that way but I don't see value to CO.

In sad news, I was an idiot and scheduled a doctor appointment for 10:15 this morning. I'm going to miss most of the first footie match. :mad:

Well earlier flight to NAS INP unless dollars are exchange. Hope my flight is in an oversold situation

Eta: lots of open seats on earlier flight

Eta2-losing mind quickly-traveling with 5 females, 4 are teenagers whose biggest thrill thus far was to laydown on the floor at the gate and mock others, while blasting their Ipods. And yes pillows and stuffies were involved. Thankful they were zone 3 and my Z1 allowed a quick, boarding :rolleyes:

It looks like I'll have a Sunday to kill, so any suggestions are welcome.

There now, solid club. Nice view of the RJ operations plus a cargo 747 in the distance.

In other news, just the brief walk up the jetway was enough to remind me why I don't live in TX any more.

Web help desk fail. Over 45 minutes on hold, and they can't fix the out-of-sync EUA. Told that my only option is to bring it to the attention of people at the airport. :rolleyes:

Hello from AC at LAX.

Bom Diddly, Box!

I am pretty excited about dinner tonight. :D

O. M. G.

Fiancee just said that she could not possibly go jetskiing because it's on skis.

Hey There! Have a good flight! See ya on the other end!^

The chicken is marinating (teriyaki wings & thighs)!:cool:

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