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sbm12 Apr 8, 2010 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13735550)
Do the light rail. I stayed downtown for all of my MSP-GEGs, and am quite familiar with the 04:15 light rail departure.

If you don't collect/value SPG points, take the cash.

So a booking from expedia.com earns no points? Really? I'm not talking about opaque bookings or fully pre-paid anything like that.


Originally Posted by cheepneezy (Post 13735736)

The Amazon deal is for Sunday-Thursday arrivals only so no credit for me in MSP. I might have a Sunday arrival in ORD though. I was already registered for the 1000 miles/stay one. :cool:

colpuck Apr 8, 2010 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 13735791)
We need a chief :rolleyes: officer.

I bring more :rolleyes: than ALCO to the table.

Olton Hall Apr 8, 2010 3:48 pm

How am I wide awake right now? Lack of sleep last night. Had to be at work at 6:30 AM today. Conference area was on the very warm side as the new AC isn't fully installed and I just worked out.

cheepneezy Apr 8, 2010 3:51 pm

The new Tiger/Earl Woods commercial = :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Apr 8, 2010 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13735826)
So a booking from expedia.com earns no points? Really? I'm not talking about opaque bookings or fully pre-paid anything like that.

I had always believed SPG.com to be the only booking portal that offered :-:Points. However, the wording of the T&Cs is a bit opaque:


5.1. Members may earn Starpoints for Eligible Charges paid at Participating Properties by providing your Membership number at time of reservation or check-in. “Participating Properties” are those hotels or resorts that (i) are owned, managed or franchised by Starwood Hotels under the Le Méridien®, Four Points® by Sheraton, Westin® Hotels & Resorts, The Luxury Collection®, aloft®, Sheraton® Hotels & Resorts, Element(SM), St. Regis® Hotels & Resorts and W Hotels® brand names, and (ii) participate in the Program. All time share (interval ownership) properties and all properties with villas have limited participation in the Program.
The following properties are not Participating Properties. We reserve the right to change this list from time to time without notice. We endeavor to keep this list up to date, but you should contact your regional Customer Contact Center for the most current information.
The Lanesborough, A St. Regis Hotel - London, United Kingdom
Residence Deira by Le Méridien - Dubai
Vistana's Beach Club - Jensen Beach, FL
Le Méridien Moscow Country Club - Moscow, Russian Federation
The Boston Park Plaza Hotel & Towers - Boston, MA
Tremont Hotel - Chicago, IL
Le Méridien Dubai - Dubai
Le Méridien Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina - Dubai
Grosvenor House West Marina Beach by Le Méridien - Dubai
Le Royal Méridien Beach Resort & Spa - Dubai
Le Méridien Al Aqah Beach Resort - Fujairah
Le Méridien Fairway - Dubai
The Westin Dubai Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina - Dubai
Sheraton Karachi Hotel and Towers - Karachi, Pakistan
Le Mériden Haifa – Haifa, Israel
5.2. Residents of Belgium are not eligible to earn Starpoints at Participating Properties in Belgium. Until June 10, 2007, all Residents of India and anyone paying by Indian Rupee are not eligible to earn Starpoints at Participating Properties in India.
5.3. “Eligible Charges” are charges incurred by you on your room account for Eligible Rates, food and beverage (excluding alcoholic beverage purchases where prohibited by law), direct dialed telephone and direct-dialed in-room fax, laundry/valet, and in-room movies and video games only. Eligible Charges do not include:
(a) room charges that are not included in the definition of Eligible Rates (NOTE: certain pre-paid rooms where the booking is made through a third party are not Eligible Rates);
(b) charges for banquets, meetings or other functions, with the exception of points earned from qualifying meetings or events through the Preferred Planner Program;
(c) complimentary services (including, but not limited to, any Awards earned through the Program);
(d) other fees paid such as parking, business center, high-speed internet access, retail stores, spa products and services and greens fees;
(e) taxes, gratuities, service charges and other applicable charges, such as energy charges, and resort fees.
(f) any charges not specifically listed as an Eligible Charge.
5.4. You may earn Starpoints for Eligible Charges paid by you during your stay even if the room charge was not an Eligible Charge. However, if the room charges are not Eligible Charges, the stay will not count as an Eligible Stay or Eligible Night towards elite levels of Membership or for threshold bonuses and promotions.
5.5. If you are a registered guest, you may receive Starpoints for Eligible Charges incurred and paid by you for up to three rooms during the same stay (your room plus two others) if all such rooms are registered in your name, you stay in one of the rooms, and you personally settle all room charges upon check-out. Multiple rooms on the same stay count as only one Eligible Stay or Eligible Night towards elite levels of Membership and for threshold bonuses and promotions.
5.6. Starpoints can be earned on charges for no-shows and early departure fees, less taxes and service charges; however, these earnings will not count as an Eligible Stay or Eligible Night towards elite levels of Membership or for threshold bonuses and promotions.
5.7. You may also earn Starpoints for food and beverage charges of US$10 or more in Participating Properties’ restaurants even if you are not a registered guest, when you present your Membership card; however, these earnings will not count as an Eligible Stay or Eligible Night towards elite levels of Membership or for threshold bonuses and promotions.
5.8. In lieu of Starpoints, you may elect to earn frequent flyer miles in participating airline loyalty programs. To earn frequent flyer miles, you must enroll in Starwood Preferred Guest and select frequent flyer miles in a participating airline loyalty program as your earning currency via either the spg.com/moremiles website or with a SPG Customer Contact Center Associate. Starwood will transfer the Starpoints earned for each stay to the selected participating airline. Credit can only be earned in one loyalty program for each stay. The election of Starpoints or airline frequent flyer credit cannot be changed for a given stay once check-out has taken place. In certain parts of the world, in lieu of Starpoints, you may be eligible to elect to earn loyalty points from participating local programs of which you may be a member, such as a dining club.
5.9. Only you may earn Starpoints or achieve stays toward elite tiers of Membership. You cannot give your Membership number to third parties to earn Starpoints or receive any in-hotel benefits. You may not earn Starpoints from hotel stays where you were not a guest in the hotel.
5.10. The amount of Starpoints earned at Participating Properties outside the U.S. will be calculated based on Eligible Charges converted to U.S. dollars at the exchange rate selected by us. This may be the rate at check-in, check-out or another rate selected by us and may not be the same rate used for currency conversions on your folio.
5.11. You will not receive any Starpoints on any Eligible Charges for any portion of a single stay in excess of 30 consecutive days, whether or not you check-out and check back-in during such stay. Effective June 1st, 2008, this will change to 90 consecutive days.
5.12. We reserve the right to deduct any Starpoints credited to a Membership account in error without notice. If refunds are made to you in respect of goods or services for which you received Starpoints, Starwood Hotels will adjust the number of Starpoints awarded.
I'm sure a thread over in the friendly SPG Forum will sort it right out. After you're done wading through twenty responses shouting at you to do a search, or artfully calling you a moron, I'm sure someone will eventually answer the question.

cheepneezy Apr 8, 2010 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13735906)
I had always believed SPG.com to be the only booking portal that offered :-:Points. However, the wording of the T&Cs is a bit opaque:



I'm sure a thread over in the friendly SPG Forum will sort it right out. After you're done wading through twenty responses shouting at you to do a search, or artfully calling you a moron, I'm sure someone will eventually answer the question.

Please see the following thread. :D

Mackieman Apr 8, 2010 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13735906)
I had always believed SPG.com to be the only booking portal that offered :-:Points. However, the wording of the T&Cs is a bit opaque:



I'm sure a thread over in the friendly SPG Forum will sort it right out. After you're done wading through twenty responses shouting at you to do a search, or artfully calling you a moron, I'm sure someone will eventually answer the question.

Or you could ask Starwood Lurker on Saturday. ;)

sbm12 Apr 8, 2010 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13735906)
I had always believed SPG.com to be the only booking portal that offered :-:Points. However, the wording of the T&Cs is a bit opaque:

That was the section I read as well. Then I actually did search and found this:


Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker II (Post 13498415)
Well, I would love to keep it simple but I see the point in differentiating it.

Refer to the following T&Cs. Notice anything new?

4B.4. An “Eligible Rate” is the rate you pay for your room, but excludes:

(a) rooms where the booking is made by a agent or third party and you pay for that booking either at the hotel or directly to such third party, such as tour operators, and third party channels, including, but not limited to priceline.com, expedia.com, hotels.com, hrn.com, hotwire.com, lastminute.com, site59.com, orbitz.com, travelocity.com, cheaptickets.com, quickbook.com, travelweb.com, lodging.com, yahootravel.com, and travel.msn.com;

Do take note that all third party bookings are ineligible for Starpoints or stay credit, regardless how the payment is made and which site or travel agent you use, that includes CTRIP and ELONG.

[email protected]

Thyetus Lee | Online Forum Coordinator(AP)
Starwood Customer Contact Centre (AP) Pte Ltd

So it looks like I'd get no points. Off to cancel and rebook via SPG.com. Not nearly enough cash involved to forgo those points. :eek:

fozz Apr 8, 2010 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13735906)
I had always believed SPG.com to be the only booking portal that offered :-:Points. However, the wording of the T&Cs is a bit opaque:



I'm sure a thread over in the friendly SPG Forum will sort it right out. After you're done wading through twenty responses shouting at you to do a search, or artfully calling you a moron, I'm sure someone will eventually answer the question.

I've booked SPG properties plenty of times via the corp agent and gotten points with no issue.

sbm12 Apr 8, 2010 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 13735965)
I've booked SPG properties plenty of times via the corp agent and gotten points with no issue.

Corporate agents are different.

I'm now talking to expedia and waiting to hear how a rate that is the exact same as the one offered by Westin directly is a "special" rate. I know I'm going to lose, but I'll have some fun doing so...

mwg25 Apr 8, 2010 4:26 pm

And for the daily multi-:rolleyes:


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 13730181)
I like what it does for my hair :rolleyes:

AGREED. I was just looking at some old pics from the days when I lived in BTR...and realized that once upon a time, yes, the Medusa-like hair once could actually be described as legitimately curly. Ugh.


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13730193)
As a purely leisure traveler, SPG properties (existing or planned) in locations like Urubamba, Ulaanbaatar, El Calafate, Isle of Pines (New Caledonia), Split, Queenstown, Seychelles, Mauritius, etc., are what attract me to the SPG currency.

Ulaanbaatar. Super-ancestral home (or home region) of my mom's family. Now that's somewhere I need to go someday. :D


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13730479)
Some of us have schedules permitting us to travel at any time over the summer ;)

Yes we do. ^


Originally Posted by COFlyerCLE (Post 13732733)
Tell me... have I completely lost my mind?

I just booked a BF ticket EWR-LHR just to go pubbing in London for a weekend.

I'm gonna be in sooooo much trouble at home.... :rolleyes:

^^^ SO JEALOUS!


Originally Posted by kingalien (Post 13732910)
Good morning Box. Been ultra busy at work :rolleyes:.

+1 - which is why I'm only catching up now.


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 13732966)
I just canceled my ANC trip. :( The AS milk run will have to wait for another time...

Sorry to hear that. :(


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 13733163)
The Knot is :rolleyes:.

It frightens me a bit. As does the plethora of wedding resources on the internet in general. The concept is useful, but the reality verges on TMI.


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 13733348)
I didn't realize that anyone still used Lotus Notes.

My workplace switched to Google Apps from Lotus Notes RIGHT before I got there. Very thankful.


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 13734002)
It's fine in my company. My Bank of America Exchange account has a 180MB storage limit. You know how easy it is to hit 180MB in an environment where multi-megabyte Excel files are regularly passed around?

Another ^ for Google Apps. It's useful for work, and it will be VERY useful for family sharing of wedding planning info, since we all live in different states and all...

Aaaannnndddd apparently I get to hang out with some of y'all tonight. Awesome. :)

icurhere2 Apr 8, 2010 4:33 pm

Just got home, cooked a steak and potatoes with a nice beer. And had a few Woodford Reserves during the flight home (and delay at ATL).

icurhere2 Apr 8, 2010 4:37 pm

In case anyone in teh Box wants to comment on the addition of Facebook Connect to FT.

sbm12 Apr 8, 2010 4:39 pm

Just go into your settings and check the box to turn it off. It might be useful for some folks; as long as those who don't want it can disable it (which should have been there all along), who cares?

icurhere2 Apr 8, 2010 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13735826)
I was already registered for the 1000 miles/stay one. :cool:

With the cash+points option alone, is a percent or two cash-back really worth more than 1,000 SPG points?


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