donsullivan

I'll certainly try uploading everything I can to an online service but experience has taught me that I will not have enough bandwidth even on hotel Wifi along the way to upload everything I might take. The RAW files from my camera are ~75MB each and that adds up pretty fast when you are trying to upload which is always slower than download. I'll just need to make sure I have 2 or 3 copies of everything in multiple different places like the Pelican with the gear, my suitcase, end onboard with me to be sure.

donsullivan

I just did a quick check on FedEx and while I'm sure I made an error on the customs fees it came up at close to $650 for me to ship my gear back from Germany

MSPeconomist

If you normally use and travel with $20,000 worth of camera equipment, don't you currently have insurance for it?

FliesWay2Much

...another industry that will profit from all of this...and the governments who will collect more sales tax dollars.

donsullivan

I have it covered under my homeowners insurance but I'm anticipating once it's checked in the hold of the plane that will not cover it. I'm trying to verify that now.

I'm looking for an Inland Marine policy right now. I've typically only travelled domestically with all this gear and only started doing it internationally in the last year. Since it was always in my possession, the risk was always relatively low. The only issue I've had (so far) was self inflicted when I dropped one of the cameras in Tokyo last fall.

rickg523

Earlier in this thread I posited that most leisure travelers could use their mobiles for the snaps and selfies that are prevalent today. That's been my observation.
But like many of the subsequent posts, I too consider photography a vital part of my travel experience. In fact, years ago I supported myself overseas independently selling mounted b+w 8x10 prints to cruisers.
So the question is, what about my good old Nikon F and 4 mechanical lenses? No electronics. Not even a battery (Selinium cell meter).

notquiteaff

You think the security people are going to try to figure out if a camera is eletronic or not? My guess is if it looks like a camera it goes into the hold.

(Sorry, kids, your etch-a-sketch tablets will have to be checked, too)

Besides, I am not going to buy a "new" camera.

leungy18

If it does happen, EU countries should treat US pax the way the US treats everyone else.

At customs, add a U.S. nationals line that U.S. nationals are forced to use. Just one officer. Make them wait 3 hours to enter. Why not?

markle

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brownie1967

Air travel is fine. The key is to ban passengers. They are the cause of the problem. If planes flew empty, save for pilots and cabin crew, the skies would be safe for all.

rickg523

Well they still have that notice about fogging film, so someone must be aware that there is photochem photography.
But yes, I agree the automatons will act as they're programmed to. Wind up monkeys banging a tin drum.
This particular ban on ex-EU won't be the challenge venue in any event. I can speak French, but not well enough to argue fine points of rules with AF.
But I fully expect it to be extended to domestic flights because, like with all security and defense proposals, regardless of the cover a vague threat may provide, behind the curtain grafters can see the profit potential. Think about it. How is a potential laptop bomb that cannot be screened when passed separately at the checkpoint made safer by being buried inside a suitcase. Who's going to take it out? What kind of equipment will be needed to "properly" pass it? And what about a few hundred lith-ion batteries in the hold? Explosion and fireproof containers? Who's selling those?
So when it's extended to every flight, I'm willing to test it. On a meaningless cheap s/h that I don't mind missing.
I could see it as kinda fun to dick around with the drones.

Big_Foot

It's not enough to have an insurance. I own some lenses it took me
years to find. Like a great copy of a Voigtlander 125 Apo-Lanthar -
the best macro lens ever built. Or a few Leica R lenses in the like-new shape.
There is no way to re-purchase those lenses. So I don't really care
for the insurance. It's not gonna change anything if those lenses
are stolen or damaged.

Big_Foot

A good question. I assume as this is your own gear,
there is no way to be charged. Must be an option as you fill the paperwork.

Big_Foot

Pick the cheapest method with $20G value. I think it's closer to $300.
But still, it's better than "we don't care" method offered by the airlines.

donsullivan

Like I said I'm sure i messed up the customs/duty part. Since it is all my own gear, not purchased in country there should be none. I may just need receipts as proof of that which I have. None of my stuff is especially unique and all of it's relatively new or current product so it could all be replaced.

While I'd whine about it I could tolerate $300 or so to ship it back and not worry about it