USDHS - TSA July 2014: "Enhanced security" overseas airports with US flights
Jul 3, 2014, 6:28 pm
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Self-fulfilling prophesies by self-believers. 
Terrorists are evolving? Only state actor terrorists have evolved when it comes to using new compounds for explosives. The non-state actor terrorists aren't evolving, and only play copy-cat of sort. The dog and pony show of questioning passengers or of banning full water bottles greater than 100ml is a sign of security degradation and of the inherent technological backwardness of the TSA and its favorites; it has nothing to do with scientific or technological evolutionary advancements of terrorists.
Terrorists are evolving? Only state actor terrorists have evolved when it comes to using new compounds for explosives. The non-state actor terrorists aren't evolving, and only play copy-cat of sort. The dog and pony show of questioning passengers or of banning full water bottles greater than 100ml is a sign of security degradation and of the inherent technological backwardness of the TSA and its favorites; it has nothing to do with scientific or technological evolutionary advancements of terrorists.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:28 pm
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What is the big debacle in this thread? TSA and Homeland Security, based on credible threats from intelligence agencies, are deciding to increase security screenings abroad for flights into the USA. Makes perfect sense to me.
This announcement seems to have engendered all sorts of criticism from people herein. I don't really understand the reason for it.
This announcement seems to have engendered all sorts of criticism from people herein. I don't really understand the reason for it.
Those of us who fly internationally know the security abroad can be just as onerous in some places. I've had nightmare security screenings in Tel Aviv, Paris, London, and Moscow of all places...just like I've seen messes at Chicago, LAX, and SFO. It's the cost of doing business or enjoying global travel in today's world.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:29 pm
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So the liquid restrictions were actually implemented to make passengers miserable and not as a means of combatting terrorists ability to create an explosive device to avoid metal detection?
Jul 3, 2014, 6:30 pm
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...we have a winner!
In 1956 terrorists weren't using 2000s methods (hydrogen peroxide) to make bombs. In 2025 they will have evolved further. Old people who fail to acknowledge security evolving as well are standing in the way. It's one thing to be set in your ways, it's another to do so when it risks actual lives of other people. I'm sure old guys at the time balked at the idea of airplanes and other technologies. They were standing in the way. Security isn't perfect, and never will be, but the methods of pre 9/11 security aren't sufficient to prevent evolving tech used by evolving terrorists.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:31 pm
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TSA's liquid restrictions don't combat "terrorists['] ability to create an explosive device to avoid metal detection".
Jul 3, 2014, 6:31 pm
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And you say you're not big government when you want to form a new government with the purpose of imprisoning the employees of the old government.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:34 pm
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Of course it doesn't detect explosives. It limits the quantity of potential explosives. Although I will admit the concessions lobby can't be displeased with our current reality.
I am still curious why you felt a need to lob a libelous accusation at me.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:36 pm
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But please, feel free to go back to the 9/11 Commission Report, and point out for all of us how lax gate security was identified as a cause of those attacks.
And you can't prove that TSA has prevented a single terrorist attack.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:38 pm
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Anyone willing to run the TSA show in its current form should be answering questions, but instead the TSA responds to questions with non-answers and TSA management frequently proves little to nothing.
Does the TSA's pet favorites in TLV want to be run a la the TSA? No, but they'll take TSA for a ride still.
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Jul 3, 2014, 6:39 pm
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You can believe whatever you want, but it isn't backed by any credible evidence.
But please, feel free to go back to the 9/11 Commission Report, and point out for all of us how lax gate security was identified as a cause of those attacks.
And you can't prove that TSA has prevented a single terrorist attack.
But please, feel free to go back to the 9/11 Commission Report, and point out for all of us how lax gate security was identified as a cause of those attacks.
And you can't prove that TSA has prevented a single terrorist attack.
Jul 3, 2014, 6:40 pm
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Jul 3, 2014, 6:42 pm
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Prove what?
Anyone willing to run the TSA show in its current form should be answering questions, but instead the TSA responses to questions with non-answers and TSA management frequently proves little to nothing.
Does the TSA's pet favorites in TLV want to be run a la the TSA? No, but they'll take TSA for a ride still.
Anyone willing to run the TSA show in its current form should be answering questions, but instead the TSA responses to questions with non-answers and TSA management frequently proves little to nothing.
Does the TSA's pet favorites in TLV want to be run a la the TSA? No, but they'll take TSA for a ride still.