chucko

Sorry, that should have been an *On-Topic* thread over on the BA forum (coffee's still brewing this morning):

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...flights-4.html

halls120

TSORon, who used to be a frequent visitor here. Former US Army who became a TSA clerk, and loved to personally attack people who had the audacity to disagree with him.

jpetekYXMD80

So why have I been compared to Ron?

chollie

Ron who?

flyerORD

You mean like Spiffs 20k post history of attacking people - calling them communists, suggesting moderators be shot upon, sheep. The list goes on and on. Calling him (and his cult) out for being angry old men with psychological issues is mild in comparison. And yet whomever his best friend is that made him a moderator allows that to continue.

Pot/kettle?

Maybe someone finally got tired of his abusive behavior and finally decided to call it out. I don't need to make these things up. His postings are quite public. Only his followers would ignore them and suddenly find those critical of his psychosis alarming.

halls120

You'd have to ask the person who made the original comparison.

If Spiff had ever suggested a moderator be shot, I doubt he'd still be allowed to post.

When Spiff makes those statements, he's not directing them at other FT members. that's the critical difference you don't seem to understand.

flyerORD

If you have a problem with the truth, then that's a you problem. Huh, Spiff wasn't banned after suggesting a moderator be placed before a firing squad.

Pot/kettle much?

jpetekYXMD80

Yes, but you responded to that comment with

Posted by halls120 View Post
I don't think it's Ron. Ron was older with life experience. Our new friend is full of the energy and arrogance of youth.

Yet i'm supposed to believe you weren't referring to myself?

bocastephen

Before slinging more false information all of the place, let's take a moment to revisit reality. Airlines never made security policy - ever (unless you're going back pre DB Cooper). The FAA had a set of standard policies that applied to every commercial service flight in the US, and airlines played no role in these policies. Now airlines did create their own policies which either improved upon or trained their staff to better understand the FAA policies and I wrote just such an airline policy and training manual back in the early 90s - and I assure you that everything in that manual mapped to, and improved upon the directives from the FAA. Shocking as it might seem, we even had a mechanism to direct a customer for additional screening like the SSSS of today.

Airports (not airlines) contracted with local vendors who implemented these policies at the airport level.

....and again...for the 1 millionth time...airport security, policies and all, had absolutely nothing - nada - zero - zilch - to do with 9/11. One, and one policy only, was the single contributing factor to 9/11, and that was the policy that required cooperation with hijackers. Absent that policy, there was no way the plan would have worked, and that's the reason why a 9/11 will never happen again - because neither crew nor passengers will ever allow someone with a knife, boxcutter or gun to gain control of their airplane.

Your dear and blessed TSA still has a plethora of gaping holes, both domestic and abroad, when it comes to sneaking a bomb on a plane in cargo or catering and that remains the only truly legitimate risk that I am concerned about.

ND Sol

Let's not disparage the Army as that then becomes personal. Ron was former Air Force (he stood around and guarded aircraft and missiles or then supervised those that did).

FredAnderssen

I'm baffled by your comments. You state that posters here have "balls that hang down to their knees" and you don't see a problem with that? Spiff's comments and problems are his own, as your momma has apparently not taught you that two wrongs don't make a right. If you don't like a comment, please press the small triangle to the left. Though tempting when it comes to your posts, I have refrained from doing so as your lack of critical thinking skills on display for all to see is punishment enough. Plus, there's an issue of continuity if EVERY ONE of your posts is flagged.

And let's be clear here: I am neither the "pot" nor the "kettle" in these posts as you suggest, so your final sentence is irrelevant.

It is past time for you to be banned.

scoow

I am closing this thread so we can all take some time off. Go enjoy the parades, BBQ & fireworks. I'm going back to the pool to cool off & suggest you all do likewise.

chollie

You're starting to sound like a disappointed groupie.

You have read all 20K of Spiff's posts? and they all attack people?

Unlike you, I have only read a fraction of Spiff's posts. I don't want to run afoul of the TOS by discussing another poster, but I will say that whether or not I agree with Spiff all the time, I don't ever recall reading a post of his that was as nasty and attacking as some of what you've posted on this thread.

I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by hurling gratuitous insults at all old, white males (some of whom post here and are TSOs, BTW). Do you think those insults will win people to your POV? Do you think people will say "wow, s/he's really got it going on, changed my whole attitude about airport security, facts and data, yeah, totally impressive"?

If you have an issue with Spiff, why don't you man up and discuss it via PM? Do you even know if Spiff is an old white male? This is an IBB - for someone who allegedly thinks only young people have a clue, that's really funny. For all you know, Spiff is a young Asian woman. For all we know, you are an old white sagging male yourself - your flawed grammar is something I'm accustomed to seeing in younger folks, your bitterness usually takes years to acquire.

Maybe you'd be happier on an IBB moderated and frequented by certifiably young, non-white, non-male people who can share bitterness and innovative ways to say 'poopy-head' with impunity.

Meanwhile, do you have anything of substance to share about the OP? Any very recent (post-TSA/DHS announcement) experiences on enhanced international security measures targeted at US-bound travelers?

FredAnderssen

Hear, hear. ^