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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:03 am
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These are low-paid clerks...
We need to stop repeating the claim that TSA employees are low-paid. They are not; in fact for what most of them do they are over-paid IMO.

Pay Band Minimum Maximum
A $17,083 $24,977
B $19,570 $28,546
C $22,167 $33,303
D $25,518 $38,277
E $29,302 $44,007
F $33,627 $50,494
G $39,358 $60,982
H $48,007 $74,390
I $58,495 $90,717
J $71,364 $110,612
K $85,311 $132,237
L $101,962 $155,500
M $120,236 $155,500

I don't know what band those infesting, err... manning the checkpoints will likely occupy, but it won't be the lower or upper, so I'd guess most of them are pulling down about 50k. That ain't chump change.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
I'll go out on a longer limb and assert that the best way to get Evil Liquid on an airplane is to simply bribe a clerk or two.
Exactly. That is how drug smugglers have been doing business for the last two decades, and it a terrorist really wants to plant an explosive device on an airplane, he/she will take the same route.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
We need to stop repeating the claim that TSA employees are low-paid. They are not; in fact for what most of them do they are over-paid IMO.

I don't know what band those infesting, err... manning the checkpoints will likely occupy, but it won't be the lower or upper, so I'd guess most of them are pulling down about 50k. That ain't chump change.
Compared to what the people they're molesting make, it's chump change.

The bigger issue is that they clearly aren't good at decision making, which means they likely have bills they can't pay. Again....a terrorist's best friend, as far as bribery goes.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
Dihydrogen monoxide is also responsible for aggressive behaviour. Researchers found that when they removed all the water from aquariums containing Siamese fighting fish, all signs of aggression disappeared almost immediately. Further research confirmed that complete water deprivation decreased aggressive behaviour in mammals; but sometimes it took a few weeks.
I figured it would only take 3 days (max).

Originally Posted by Wally Bird
We need to stop repeating the claim that TSA employees are low-paid. They are not; in fact for what most of them do they are over-paid IMO.

Pay Band Minimum Maximum
A $17,083 $24,977
B $19,570 $28,546
C $22,167 $33,303
D $25,518 $38,277
E $29,302 $44,007
F $33,627 $50,494
G $39,358 $60,982
H $48,007 $74,390
I $58,495 $90,717
J $71,364 $110,612
K $85,311 $132,237
L $101,962 $155,500
M $120,236 $155,500

I don't know what band those infesting, err... manning the checkpoints will likely occupy, but it won't be the lower or upper, so I'd guess most of them are pulling down about 50k. That ain't chump change.
Not sure how time-accurate, yet this should be representative. Appears an STSO can do rather ok:

Area Director (TSES)
Deputy Area Director (TSES)
Federal Security Director (TSES)
Deputy Federal Security Director (TSES)
Assistant Federal Security Director - Screening (K-band)
Deputy Assistant Federal Security Director - Screening (J-Band)
Transportation Security Manager - Screening (I-band)
Transportation Security Manager - Screening (H-band)
Supervisory Transportation Security Officer (G-band)
Lead Transportation Security Officer (F-band)
Transportation Security Officer (E-band)
Transportation Security Officer (D-band)
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by T.J. Bender
Mike, there's a fish pun waiting to be made.
Ah, it's good to be back.

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The best answer I've ever gotten from a TSO during a gate check is, "The signs at the checkpoint say we can."
I'm totally bringing my own sign next time.

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Old Jul 10, 2012, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by dan1431
That is how you (IMHO) get airside screening of liquids as some yahoo (probably some low level bureaucrat in Washington or maybe even at the airport admin level) figures that liquids are bad, there are liquids air side, so let protect the public by checking them with our "magic dangerous liquid identification strips" (Patent Pending ).

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... and I'll throw in the box of Cracker Jacks too.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 6:21 pm
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if these magic strips are so effective, why not employ them at the gate, and ditch the rediculous size limits on liquids ?
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 7:40 pm
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if these magic strips are so effective, why not employ them at the gate, and ditch the rediculous size limits on liquids ?
They only work if somebody's drinking from it. The explosives seem to mix with saliva.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey
They only work if somebody's drinking from it. The explosives seem to mix with saliva.
That explains why I get gas when drinking bottled water.
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Old Jul 11, 2012, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey
They only work if somebody's drinking from it. The explosives seem to mix with saliva.
AND they only work on the bottles of water from the pallets airport vendors buy at Costco, not on the bottles of water from the pallets YOU buy at Costco.

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Old Jul 11, 2012, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by Rondall
if these magic strips are so effective, why not employ them at the gate, and ditch the rediculous size limits on liquids ?
Because the TSA would have to find some other make-work project for the excess TSOs.

The gate checks don't exist out of any need for additional security.

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Old Jul 11, 2012, 10:11 pm
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As a side note, what I would love to know is, if I am consuming it (the potentially dangerous liquid), what good is it as a weapon?
That's what I've been wondering.

Oooh! What if I'm drinking a sake bomb?
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Old Jul 12, 2012, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by TheGolfWidow
Has anyone submitted their drink for testing and then actually had the strip turn purple or develop a faint + sign or do whatever it is that happens when a drink is positive for [something or other]? What, exactly, happens to you and your formerly refreshing beverage at that point?
I think if you see a + sign it means you're pregnant!
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Old Jul 12, 2012, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by reamworks
I think if you see a + sign it means you're pregnant!
As I wipe the saliva off my monitor...

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Old Jul 12, 2012, 12:28 pm
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"Has anyone submitted their drink for testing and then actually had the strip turn purple or develop a faint + sign or do whatever it is that happens when a drink is positive for [something or other]? What, exactly, happens to you and your formerly refreshing beverage at that point?"

My theory: that will never happen, as the Magic Strips are pure Bravo Sierra, most likely overpriced strips of construction paper sold to a gullible (or knowing) TSA. Coincidentally, this means that Magic Strips are correct 100% of the time, since they have never been used on an actual liquid explosive.
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