Discussion: Constitutionality of BOS (Logan) BDO program
Aug 19, 2011 | 2:52 pm
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I don't see where refusing to answer questions, in and of itself, will result in being refused access to the sterile area. Additional, possibly retaliatory, secondary screening perhaps, but once someone and their belongings are screened for weapons, explosives and incendiaries they will be admitted.
Here it is on the TSA jobs site. Behavior Detection voodoo practitioners need to pass a drug test and read English, so at least we have that going for us.
Here it is on the TSA jobs site. Behavior Detection voodoo practitioners need to pass a drug test and read English, so at least we have that going for us.
Aug 19, 2011 | 2:52 pm
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While some have argued that things like the "no fly" list constitute an unconstitutional abrogation of freedom of movement, existing legal doctrine unfortunately seems to support it.
Also, it's not clear that those other three-letter agencies are categorically more competent and less intrusive than the TSA. (Look up the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program, for instance. Or look at the Christmas bomber, who evaded the FBI and might have succeeded if it were easy to get a better bomb through the checkpoint.) The TSA is just more transparent and visible to the public.
Aug 19, 2011 | 2:57 pm
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FT has too many posts to count in which posters rant about how they want TSA to function more like Israeli aviation security. That's what this is. It's not invasive, it's not unconstitutional and is used to make judgments about whether some people need secondary inspection.
Fortunately, it will only take a few prosecutions of people who deliberately lie to TSA (18 USC Sec. 1001 provides a 5-year felony penalty for that) before the jokesters stop giving poor advice.
In the meantime, BOS-ATL is easily driveable and a wonderful view of scenic I-95!
Fortunately, it will only take a few prosecutions of people who deliberately lie to TSA (18 USC Sec. 1001 provides a 5-year felony penalty for that) before the jokesters stop giving poor advice.
In the meantime, BOS-ATL is easily driveable and a wonderful view of scenic I-95!
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:00 pm
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Being physically unable to assume and hold the position in the NoS subjects a person to a thorough screening....
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:01 pm
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Again, BOS-ATL is fortunately driveable for those who object to the process.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:02 pm
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Aug 19, 2011 | 3:25 pm
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It is foolish, but foolishness is the expected result in a country and world where there is a huge supply of fools and those willing to exploit fools.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:27 pm
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Once again, there is nothing that I've seen in either statutory law or case law that holds this latest idiocy (or the x-ray or grope) Constitutional, and I am a lawyer. My response, if questioned will be, "According to the Constitution, that's none of your business!"
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:32 pm
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The Israeli model:
- employs highly-motivated individuals,
- with extensive training,
- who are therefore extremely competent and professional.
The TSA experiment lacks all of the above. In both cases passengers are questioned; however, beyond that superficial resemblance they are in no way similar. Comparing what TSA is doing with the Israeli approach is like saying a kindergarten play is modeled on a Broadway production. It may be literally true but the result is not - and should not be expected to be - similar.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:41 pm
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Didn't anyone ask who landed the voodoo "security" training contract and who all is getting paid or paid off for the TSA's voodoo "security" training?
Perhaps something else for the GAO to pursue beside this GAO report on the voodoo "security" of "behavior detection".
I'd say this act in the TSA dog and pony show is not going to be entirely like flying El Al out of TLV.
Perhaps something else for the GAO to pursue beside this GAO report on the voodoo "security" of "behavior detection".
I'd say this act in the TSA dog and pony show is not going to be entirely like flying El Al out of TLV.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:44 pm
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I genuinely understand your misgivings about the TSA questions you on personal matters; however, since the TDC is talking to thousands of people everyday, your answers will not be logged or remembered. What matters is how you answer. Your body language helps the TDC to determine if you are a threat. If you maintain eye contact and exude calm body language you will be through in no time, and you can be sure the government will not have recorded your responses. While on its face this program appears to invade privacy, in reality the intrusion is very small.
If your assertion is true then an answer of "Feel free to engage in an unnatural act," or "I choose not to respond," should work just as well as any other answer. Think that would work?
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:48 pm
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It might work, but that would provide a smaller sample size than a selection of 3 or 4 questions. Also the questions carry an element of surprise which is lost when you state a prepared response.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:49 pm
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The TSA is only using college educated agents for this assignment, which should help on that front. Also I think you misjudge the El Al approach. It is much more centered on training and skill than profiling. They would not have their perfect security record just by hassling every Arab passenger flying on El Al.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:53 pm
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This approach has worked pretty well for the friskings. Documenting as many as possible has caused all sorts of national attention, embarrassed the TSA, caused Pissy to have more embarrassing reactions, and resulted in a few lawsuits. ...not bad for 9 months of work on our part.
Aug 19, 2011 | 3:59 pm
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