Barefoot on airplane = threatened with arrest
#76
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From AA's "Amenity Kits" page ( http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/amenitykits.jsp ):
One presumes these are "slipper-socks" and that it is expected they will be worn without shoes.
It appears that many are equating not wearing shoes as "barefoot" but they aren't the same thing.
The Amenity Kit also includes:
Eye Mask
Socks
Re-sealable cap tooth brush, Colgate tooth paste and Dentex tooth pick
Ear plugs
Pen
Mints
Tissues, etc
Eye Mask
Socks
Re-sealable cap tooth brush, Colgate tooth paste and Dentex tooth pick
Ear plugs
Pen
Mints
Tissues, etc
It appears that many are equating not wearing shoes as "barefoot" but they aren't the same thing.
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In most premium cabins on long haul, the airline provides slippers or socks. That implies the airline is OK with shoeless attire.
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I'm still wondering, after 8 flights these past few weeks hearing the GA's tell me over the intercom that "FAA requires that all passengers may only carry one bag and one personal item onboard the aircraft." I never violate this rule as it has been in effect by the airlines long before the TSA came into existence (I am not confusing the TSA with the FAA) but it strikes me as odd that this is the new line over the past few years concerning carry-ons. Anyone have more info on that? Is it really an FAA rule?
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I have noticed that after Sept 2001 that what used to be airline "policy" suddenly became "security" requirement. I have flown since Spring 1980 and it was so much better in years past.
These have been things that haven't been promogulated into regulations but that the FA's just misquote the FAA, etc. A few times, I first complied with their request and later politely asked the flight attendant "where the regulation was located so I can look it up?". Usually they couldn't answer me. I was always quite polite (and curious) so I never got into any trouble over me asking them about the policy/requirement.
I wish the FA's would correctly mention their rules are "airline" policy not security.
These have been things that haven't been promogulated into regulations but that the FA's just misquote the FAA, etc. A few times, I first complied with their request and later politely asked the flight attendant "where the regulation was located so I can look it up?". Usually they couldn't answer me. I was always quite polite (and curious) so I never got into any trouble over me asking them about the policy/requirement.
I wish the FA's would correctly mention their rules are "airline" policy not security.
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Flying from MUC-EWR on UA a couple weeks ago. When we took off, FA went on (and on and on) about 'strictest levels of security' mandated by the 'Transportation Security Agency' including no lines for the bathroom, passengers not allowed in the galleys and no standing/walking in the aisles except to access the restroom, no one in the aisles during service, and passengers not allowed to leave their cabin of travel.
All of this was repeated (bellowed) twice.
Now, if these are airline or FAA regs, so be it (although I think some of them might be a stretch). Hello....on any packed single-aisle plane, it can be almost impossible to get to the coach bathrooms without a wait. But I am getting a little tired of hearing that the everything a particular FA wants on a flight is a TSA rule.
All of this was repeated (bellowed) twice.
Now, if these are airline or FAA regs, so be it (although I think some of them might be a stretch). Hello....on any packed single-aisle plane, it can be almost impossible to get to the coach bathrooms without a wait. But I am getting a little tired of hearing that the everything a particular FA wants on a flight is a TSA rule.
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Flying from MUC-EWR on UA a couple weeks ago. When we took off, FA went on (and on and on) about 'strictest levels of security' mandated by the 'Transportation Security Agency' including no lines for the bathroom, passengers not allowed in the galleys and no standing/walking in the aisles except to access the restroom, no one in the aisles during service, and passengers not allowed to leave their cabin of travel.
All of this was repeated (bellowed) twice.
Now, if these are airline or FAA regs, so be it (although I think some of them might be a stretch). Hello....on any packed single-aisle plane, it can be almost impossible to get to the coach bathrooms without a wait. But I am getting a little tired of hearing that the everything a particular FA wants on a flight is a TSA rule.
All of this was repeated (bellowed) twice.
Now, if these are airline or FAA regs, so be it (although I think some of them might be a stretch). Hello....on any packed single-aisle plane, it can be almost impossible to get to the coach bathrooms without a wait. But I am getting a little tired of hearing that the everything a particular FA wants on a flight is a TSA rule.
btw, UA doesn't fly MUC-EWR..
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I know the whole subject of socks/shoes in the cabin has been hotly debated before However, there is one point I don't understand.
I put a pair of amenity kit socks over my own socks (if I'm wearing them) to get through the checkpoint. I don't want my socks (or feet) getting dirty and I don't want the dirt from the floor going into my shoes.
When I'm on a longer flight, I always remove my shoes and socks and put on amenity kit socks. I wear these until shortly before landing - then I remove them and put my regular socks (if any) and shoes back on.
I don't walk around barefoot or in my regular socks. I don't want whatever is on the floor of the airplane (at my seat, aisle, in the bathroom) on my socks or bare feet. I also don't want it on my regular socks because I don't want to transfer it to the inside of my shoes.
So when I am on a plane, wearing amenity kit socks, I certainly do NOT put my shoes back on before I go the bathroom. And I'm not going to be bothered with taking the amenity kit socks off, putting my regular socks and shoes on, using the bathroom, and then reversing the process.
Just thought I'd state my case for any of you who might have observed me walking around the plane in socks, going in and out of the bathroom.
I put a pair of amenity kit socks over my own socks (if I'm wearing them) to get through the checkpoint. I don't want my socks (or feet) getting dirty and I don't want the dirt from the floor going into my shoes.
When I'm on a longer flight, I always remove my shoes and socks and put on amenity kit socks. I wear these until shortly before landing - then I remove them and put my regular socks (if any) and shoes back on.
I don't walk around barefoot or in my regular socks. I don't want whatever is on the floor of the airplane (at my seat, aisle, in the bathroom) on my socks or bare feet. I also don't want it on my regular socks because I don't want to transfer it to the inside of my shoes.
So when I am on a plane, wearing amenity kit socks, I certainly do NOT put my shoes back on before I go the bathroom. And I'm not going to be bothered with taking the amenity kit socks off, putting my regular socks and shoes on, using the bathroom, and then reversing the process.
Just thought I'd state my case for any of you who might have observed me walking around the plane in socks, going in and out of the bathroom.
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I have noticed that after Sept 2001 that what used to be airline "policy" suddenly became "security" requirement. I have flown since Spring 1980 and it was so much better in years past.
These have been things that haven't been promogulated into regulations but that the FA's just misquote the FAA, etc. A few times, I first complied with their request and later politely asked the flight attendant "where the regulation was located so I can look it up?". Usually they couldn't answer me. I was always quite polite (and curious) so I never got into any trouble over me asking them about the policy/requirement.
I wish the FA's would correctly mention their rules are "airline" policy not security.
These have been things that haven't been promogulated into regulations but that the FA's just misquote the FAA, etc. A few times, I first complied with their request and later politely asked the flight attendant "where the regulation was located so I can look it up?". Usually they couldn't answer me. I was always quite polite (and curious) so I never got into any trouble over me asking them about the policy/requirement.
I wish the FA's would correctly mention their rules are "airline" policy not security.
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oh what a load of bull. so many wrong and mis quotes in that its not even funny. Thats one FA that needs to be called on it on the flight and by higher ups.
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Actually, I did hear that one recently and it slipped my mind - federal regulations require one bag in the overhead and one under the seat in front.
No mention of what federal regulations mandate if you have an equipment box underneath the seat in front of you, of course.
No mention of what federal regulations mandate if you have an equipment box underneath the seat in front of you, of course.
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OMG I was trying to be totally facetious and outrageously satirical. Are you saying that I accidentally got it right? That's pretty sad!
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