Chase Freedom 2018 4th quarter 5% categories: Wholesale club, Dept store, Chase Pay
#61
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I opened up my Chase Pay app for the first time in a while and noticed that in addition to using a QR code to pay, there's now a link to Pay with Samsung Pay. If I link to Samsung Pay via the Chase Pay app, any chance that'll come through as the 5% for Chase Pay linking me there? That'd really expand the options infinitely for next quarter.
Went into best buy to trigger the 6x. QR code scan would fail on their register, i ended hitting pay with samsung pay, did NFC.
1000 points showed up for using chase pay in transaction.
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Any card where you're getting a high-value signup bonus on minimum spend, and you wouldn't meet the spend easily without including gas purchases, those gas purchases earn quite likely way over 10% cash equivalent. But only until you've met the minimum spend, and then suddenly they don't. So if you churn using only "natural" spend, and churn enough times a year that most of your regular spend goes into minimum spend on signup bonuses, then you can have high returns on many categories. But doing that amount of churn doesn't work for everyone, and for people who MS through all their churn, it doesn't work either.
#63
I often have such a card in my wallet, and perhaps you do to.
Any card where you're getting a high-value signup bonus on minimum spend, and you wouldn't meet the spend easily without including gas purchases, those gas purchases earn quite likely way over 10% cash equivalent. But only until you've met the minimum spend, and then suddenly they don't. So if you churn using only "natural" spend, and churn enough times a year that most of your regular spend goes into minimum spend on signup bonuses, then you can have high returns on many categories. But doing that amount of churn doesn't work for everyone, and for people who MS through all their churn, it doesn't work either.
Any card where you're getting a high-value signup bonus on minimum spend, and you wouldn't meet the spend easily without including gas purchases, those gas purchases earn quite likely way over 10% cash equivalent. But only until you've met the minimum spend, and then suddenly they don't. So if you churn using only "natural" spend, and churn enough times a year that most of your regular spend goes into minimum spend on signup bonuses, then you can have high returns on many categories. But doing that amount of churn doesn't work for everyone, and for people who MS through all their churn, it doesn't work either.
I can fill a tank of gas with the Barclay Aviator card and get 60,000 miles or more. What is the % of spending $30 and getting 60,000 miles? This is comparing apple vs watermelon.
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My point is that if you spend most of your year doing "natural" minimum spend on one card or another, and comparatively little of your spend (only what's in a good category that month) goes on other cards, then it's quite different.
I have been in that situation for years now. I'd say at least 95% of my spend each year either goes on hotel cards for their hotels, Freedom or Discover for 5x/5% categories, Chase Premier TYP for 3x on "broadest definition of travel", Amex Everyday (with "20") for groceries, retention or other spend bonuses on existing cards, and otherwise on minimum spend for new cards.
Occasionally the schedule messes up (like when I apply for a card and I don't get it before a trip like I'd hoped, or I'm denied for one card and then have to apply for a different one which takes longer) where I have to use something else for a short time, but not that often.
I thus never got in the habit of thinking about an "everything else" card, the way some people for example treated the SPG card (until August of this year).
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Interesting. So, it seems you login to Chase Pay and instead of the QR, use the Pay with Samsung Pay, then enter your Samsung PIN and get a special Samsung Pay/Chase Pay (at the top above the card being displayed) combined screen to do the NFC or MSD.
I have never done the double step, but I am sure I won't be the first to try it to see if it qualifies.
I am just going to say it, this is the dumbest digital wallet strategy. It just creates friction. Maybe for 5% worth it, but so awful.
I have never done the double step, but I am sure I won't be the first to try it to see if it qualifies.
I am just going to say it, this is the dumbest digital wallet strategy. It just creates friction. Maybe for 5% worth it, but so awful.
Last edited by rasheed; Sep 20, 2018 at 7:58 pm
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Interesting. So, it seems you login to Chase Pay and instead of the QR, use the Pay with Samsung Pay, then enter your Samsung PIN and get a special Samsung Pay/Chase Pay (at the top above the card being displayed) combined screen to do the NFC or MSD.
I have never done the double step, but I am sure I won't be the first to try it to see if it qualifies.
I am just going to say it, this is the dumbest digital wallet strategy. It just creates friction. Maybe for 5% worth it, but so awful.
I have never done the double step, but I am sure I won't be the first to try it to see if it qualifies.
I am just going to say it, this is the dumbest digital wallet strategy. It just creates friction. Maybe for 5% worth it, but so awful.
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Simply find and replace Costco with [Sam's Club] since it works the same way there. I've never been a BJ's member but I'd guess it works the same way as Costco and Sam's. Both of these merchants have co-branded credit cards that offer bonuses on gas stations. The gas bar and the store will NOT code as the same thing. IME, they never have.
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