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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 8:41 am
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by djsflynn
Update 2, Electric Boogaloo: no useful answers from CX PR. My own take on the KA carve-up would be that premium routes with solid margin are handed to CX, leisure routes with more price-sensitive travellers are handed to UO. Could be mix and match for some countries, eg Manila has premium travellers ex-HKG due to call centres, one reason there's a CX lounge there, so that might be handed over to CX; but Cebu might be far more leisure and low-cost, so it goes UO. Doesn't mean a city can't have both airlines, too Manila has a lot of low-cost traffic so maybe some flights CX and some UO.
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All KA tickets are to be cancelled except PEK, SHA, PVG, TPE and DPS

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...assengers.html
HK Governments Transportation Bureau stated KAs routes need to be retendered.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 10:13 am
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Seem like KA600 is the last KA flight to depart from HK while KA897 is the last KA flight to land in HK.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 11:54 am
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Curious how this will impact routes such as HKG-DPS or HKG-HKT. I don't think I'd be super excited about connecting to HK Express on those routes...

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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
I don't quite agree. If HX gets half of KA's existing mainland slots, CX will be in a bad shape. I'm sure CX would like to keep most (if not all) of KA's mainland slots.
That's not likely to happen when it's CX, HX and UO competing for slots. CX and UO should be able to fetch at least 2/3 of the rights unless CAAC doesn't want to give it to CX due to previous FA actions.

Plus I am unsure if HX is even healthy enough to fly consider CX is already doing so bad in HKG.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 12:51 pm
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Peace out DVO flights, guess the only PH routes with be MNL and CEB.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 1:16 pm
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They HR vultures are poaching former flight attendants :

My translation-
Open hiring of broadcast hostesses,
Today Cathay has abandoned many ladies
We are looking for Eloquent, young and good looking broadcasters
Cathay FA's are what we are looking for
You will be given priority
We offer training
To turn you from a Cathay FA to a celebrity broadcaster.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
They HR vultures are poaching former flight attendants :

My translation-
Open hiring of broadcast hostesses,
Today Cathay has abandoned many ladies
We are looking for Eloquent, young and good looking broadcasters
Cathay FA's are what we are looking for
You will be given priority
We offer training
To turn you from a Cathay FA to a celebrity broadcaster.
Nice to know the 1960s are alive and well in Hong Kong
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 6:14 pm
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Nice to know the 1960s are alive and well in Hong Kong
There is more, a few property agencies are hiring at the Chinese CX/OW group on FaceBook.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu
Curious how this will impact routes such as HKG-DPS or HKG-HKT. I don't think I'd be super excited about connecting to HK Express on those routes...

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Given that DPS used to be CX, I'd have thought that CX would aim to take that one back over. Then again, if deemed "leisure" and hence for UO, then I can see a lot of custom lost. Unless UO ups its game and basically becomes KA v2.0.

In my case, I fly DAC quite a bit and the overnight return was bad enough. But if it becomes LCC (i.e. UO) on top of that, I'd likely fly via BKK or even KUL in future.

That then has a knock-on effect, as my MP Status could be in jeopardy. Which by extension makes me less likely to pay extra $$$ to fly CX if I no longer get lounge access, etc
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
HK Governments Transportation Bureau stated KAs routes need to be retendered.
So this now likely becomes a political issue - which is unlikely to auger well.

If rights diverted to HX or "Greater Bay Airlines" (on basis that Shenzhen is no longer deemed "foreign" by the ATLA - witness HX ownership also) then CX likely to face much stiffer competition overall when flights resume in earnest.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by feh
So this now likely becomes a political issue - which is unlikely to auger well.

If rights diverted to HX or "Greater Bay Airlines" (on basis that Shenzhen is no longer deemed "foreign" by the ATLA - witness HX ownership also) then CX likely to face much stiffer competition overall when flights resume in earnest.
It is a new ball game, completely different from the previous.
I wonder what happens to former KA slots at HKIA.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu
Curious how this will impact routes such as HKG-DPS or HKG-HKT. I don't think I'd be super excited about connecting to HK Express on those routes...

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I'm also hoping not to ply HK Express from KUL to HKG...
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by blum81
I'm also hoping not to ply HK Express from KUL to HKG...
The typical flyer talker wont want to do this, but at the right price theres plenty of HK people who will do this. Remember those horrible red eye but cheap flights to/from Singapore are full.
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos
It is a new ball game, completely different from the previous.
I wonder what happens to former KA slots at HKIA.
Slots at HKIA should be fine. These slots are allowed to transfer to another airline under the same parent group.

In terms of traffic rights, I don't think the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department could be a barrier, considering HKSAR now holding shares of CX. The issues are about the Mainland Authority. A few months ago Reuters reported that CX faced difficulties when they negotiated to with Mainland Authority for transferring traffic rights from KA to CX. Now I don't think there has been no progress made since May. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2320BR
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