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This thread is for specific A350 discussion.
For discussion regarding the A350-1000 please discuss here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1909549-a350-1000-general-discussion.html
Seating Guide
A350 Seating Guide
Routes to be serviced by A350:
Cathay Pacific full fleet and route guide (search for 35G for A350): Cathay Pacific Fleet, Route and Configuration Guide
Useful thread: New route speculation for Cathay
Already operating or confirmed (date of commencement)
Amsterdam
Auckland
Barcelona
Brisbane
Brussels
Capetown
Christchurch
Dublin
Frankfurt (March 31, 2019)
London Gatwick
Madrid
Manchester
Melbourne
Newark
Paris
Perth
Rome
San Francisco
Seattle (March 31, 2019)
Toronto (Su,W,F Oct 31 2019)
Tel Aviv
Vancouver
Washington DC
Zurich (March 31, 2019)
Existing routes, speculated future equipment change to A350
Chicago
Milan
Los Angeles
Speculated future routes
For discussion regarding the A350-1000 please discuss here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1909549-a350-1000-general-discussion.html
Seating Guide
A350 Seating Guide
Routes to be serviced by A350:
Cathay Pacific full fleet and route guide (search for 35G for A350): Cathay Pacific Fleet, Route and Configuration Guide
Useful thread: New route speculation for Cathay
Already operating or confirmed (date of commencement)
Amsterdam
Auckland
Barcelona
Brisbane
Brussels
Capetown
Christchurch
Dublin
Frankfurt (March 31, 2019)
London Gatwick
Madrid
Manchester
Melbourne
Newark
Paris
Perth
Rome
San Francisco
Seattle (March 31, 2019)
Toronto (Su,W,F Oct 31 2019)
Tel Aviv
Vancouver
Washington DC
Zurich (March 31, 2019)
Existing routes, speculated future equipment change to A350
Chicago
Milan
Los Angeles
Speculated future routes
A350 general discussion
#826
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
Is this news true?
"EU regulatory body the European Aviation Safety Agency has issued a warning over the Airbus A350-941 need software fix to avoid a fire risk."
http://www.express.co.uk/travel/arti...irbus-A350-941
http://www.travelpulse.com/news/airl...sion-risk.html
"EU regulatory body the European Aviation Safety Agency has issued a warning over the Airbus A350-941 need software fix to avoid a fire risk."
http://www.express.co.uk/travel/arti...irbus-A350-941
http://www.travelpulse.com/news/airl...sion-risk.html
Here is the original:
https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2017-0154-E
#828
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 116
So now it's 28 A359s and 22 A35Ks. What I don't really get is how they say they can operate the A35K to the US East Coast with better efficiency than the A359 when the A35K has slightly less range?
I'm assuming that with 6 more A359s we'll get more new destinations soon as well? When are they coming?
#829
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Actually, I sort of did a brainstorm about what outports can support a 35K. Not that many honestly (just like there are not that many 77Gs)
It's a wise move
It's a wise move
#830
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marco Polo
Posts: 546
The A350-900 has hit the sweet spot for CX in terms of capacity for many existing routes and launching new routes that wouldn't have worked with previous larger or less efficient aircraft. Getting more 359s and earlier is a great thing, the 77Ws can hold down the fort a bit longer on select routes until the 35K and 779 come later on.
#833
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: BA SL, CX GR, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 581
Thought CX had worked out a magic ratio between the A359 and A35K, so a bit unexpected to see this change. The A359s must be performing SO well, and perhaps the change of CX's policy on new routes makes A359s even more suitable. Just curious on what would have happened if CX chose 787-8/9 sometime ago, which seem to have similar capacity and range?
#834
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
WHY?!?!?! :/
So now it's 28 A359s and 22 A35Ks. What I don't really get is how they say they can operate the A35K to the US East Coast with better efficiency than the A359 when the A35K has slightly less range?
I'm assuming that with 6 more A359s we'll get more new destinations soon as well? When are they coming?
So now it's 28 A359s and 22 A35Ks. What I don't really get is how they say they can operate the A35K to the US East Coast with better efficiency than the A359 when the A35K has slightly less range?
I'm assuming that with 6 more A359s we'll get more new destinations soon as well? When are they coming?
#835
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
Thought CX had worked out a magic ratio between the A359 and A35K, so a bit unexpected to see this change. The A359s must be performing SO well, and perhaps the change of CX's policy on new routes makes A359s even more suitable. Just curious on what would have happened if CX chose 787-8/9 sometime ago, which seem to have similar capacity and range?
The B788 was simply a nonstarter given its size. Way too small. The B789 might've worked at the small end for CX, but the two sizes of A350 worked better. CX wasn't in the market for the B787-10 and I dont think a single plane type fleet made sense (B789) vs having both A359 and A35k. Not to mention CX got killer delivery slots for the a350.
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#836
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 291
#837
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 254
Maybe they don't want to reconfigure them when they launch the new F and J with B777-9, which also start delivering in 2021
#838
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 116
Just to clarify they are not deferring all A35K, only 5 which supposed to get delivered in 2020 will now move to 2021 and they are still getting the first one around next Apr.
Maybe they don't want to reconfigure them when they launch the new F and J with B777-9, which also start delivering in 2021
Maybe they don't want to reconfigure them when they launch the new F and J with B777-9, which also start delivering in 2021
#839
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Never too late to the game, but I finally had two 35G sectors and fortunately both were not full so I got to 'try' different seats (and chat w/ crew) [both SIN-HKG]
Pros:
The 'second' armrest is definitely much more sturdier and present compared to the FB2 one where you have to pull it up (at an angle), if only it was not falling apart on the older frame (LRD)
There are some 'wide-at-hip' seats on the FB2 configs like 11DG for 77G/H/33E/K...on the 35G they seem to be 11DG and 20DG. 20DG is not bad at all if just the partition at the legs being a bit too short.
The padding of the seat felt more thick and solid than FB2 which was great - was indeed able to power nap comfortably on both sectors. The movable tray table is great too.
Cons:
I found the footwell to be quite tight across every seat, without much difference, compared to the existing configs which have 'prime' seats (77H 11AK, 16K, 77G 11AK, 33E/K 11AK 19A etc) that I really, really like...am I the only one that values that much more than the new 'knee' space? Especially the 'headroom for the feet'? For the former, unless I bend my knees, I really don't think it widens the bed area much.
On the newer frame (LRR) there were no peeling and falling apart observations, although two lavs were faulty - did not light up after locked; LRD was yes indeed showing faults here and there, not major inconveniences but had one just flown a QR plane, it would be quite obviously worse.
As for IFE, indeed hugely improved cosmetically, but most things are the same overall, except for maps/cameras and live TV. [disclaimer - I didn't use the wifi]; there are again some bugs/minor things that might be worth fixing- for example you can only use the handset monitor when detached, and exiting the map/camera stops the background music at the same time.
Maybe I will feel differently after going through a full night's sleep on a long haul (booked for December!) but so far I felt it was between good and meh. Both SPs agreed with me that it still doesn't beat my all time favorite 77H 11A yet...the tightness was between A330 and 77W as I felt it.
I found 20A a great seat sadly with a missing window, but 12A was fine too (although my friend said it was bad for a long haul as the toilet light kept flashing between green and red). 21A very good too, although there is no extra storage bin behind it. And obviously, 11DG is really a nono and why they did it like that still puzzles me.
Pros:
The 'second' armrest is definitely much more sturdier and present compared to the FB2 one where you have to pull it up (at an angle), if only it was not falling apart on the older frame (LRD)
There are some 'wide-at-hip' seats on the FB2 configs like 11DG for 77G/H/33E/K...on the 35G they seem to be 11DG and 20DG. 20DG is not bad at all if just the partition at the legs being a bit too short.
The padding of the seat felt more thick and solid than FB2 which was great - was indeed able to power nap comfortably on both sectors. The movable tray table is great too.
Cons:
I found the footwell to be quite tight across every seat, without much difference, compared to the existing configs which have 'prime' seats (77H 11AK, 16K, 77G 11AK, 33E/K 11AK 19A etc) that I really, really like...am I the only one that values that much more than the new 'knee' space? Especially the 'headroom for the feet'? For the former, unless I bend my knees, I really don't think it widens the bed area much.
On the newer frame (LRR) there were no peeling and falling apart observations, although two lavs were faulty - did not light up after locked; LRD was yes indeed showing faults here and there, not major inconveniences but had one just flown a QR plane, it would be quite obviously worse.
As for IFE, indeed hugely improved cosmetically, but most things are the same overall, except for maps/cameras and live TV. [disclaimer - I didn't use the wifi]; there are again some bugs/minor things that might be worth fixing- for example you can only use the handset monitor when detached, and exiting the map/camera stops the background music at the same time.
Maybe I will feel differently after going through a full night's sleep on a long haul (booked for December!) but so far I felt it was between good and meh. Both SPs agreed with me that it still doesn't beat my all time favorite 77H 11A yet...the tightness was between A330 and 77W as I felt it.
I found 20A a great seat sadly with a missing window, but 12A was fine too (although my friend said it was bad for a long haul as the toilet light kept flashing between green and red). 21A very good too, although there is no extra storage bin behind it. And obviously, 11DG is really a nono and why they did it like that still puzzles me.
#840
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Marco Polo Club, KF
Posts: 208