August 2021 flight cancellations and operational changes
Jul 1, 2021, 4:58 pm
#77
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Quite agree and feel the same about my usual route - MIA.
BA still have a 2 x daily 77W (207) and now A350 (209) scheduled for August.
I can’t think for a minute that these 2 rotations will stick, with the daily AA 77W plying the route too.
One of the reasons why I bagged the AA seats in F rather than BA207, which I reckon will get canned in due course.
BA still have a 2 x daily 77W (207) and now A350 (209) scheduled for August.
I can’t think for a minute that these 2 rotations will stick, with the daily AA 77W plying the route too.
One of the reasons why I bagged the AA seats in F rather than BA207, which I reckon will get canned in due course.
Jul 1, 2021, 5:10 pm
#78
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Yeah so I was booked on the daytime flight to dxb. As it’s cancelled will I be allowed to move my booking to any date in the future, even though there is still an evening flight ?
Jul 1, 2021, 5:48 pm
#79
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All morning departures, except FCO, from Italy (VCE, LIN, FLR) to LHR have been cancelled.
Last edited by QT31415; Jul 1, 2021 at 5:53 pm
Jul 1, 2021, 6:32 pm
#80
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You might want to check you don't select USA as a Point of sale in expert flyer. BA49 has been operating every other day since May (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun) with pretty good loads, so odds of it being cancelled are quite low. Actually BA is planning on changing its frequency to a daily in August.
Jul 1, 2021, 7:07 pm
#81
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Probably more and more BA flight cancelations across the pond will be announced in August and September:
https://onemileatatime.com/news/us-u...likely-to-end/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/us-u...likely-to-end/
Jul 2, 2021, 12:32 am
#82
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I need to travel on that day in August (or a couple of days either side), so that is the main reason I plumped for the AA39 rather than BA207, as I am pretty confident the first BA flight will get the chop in due course.
Jul 2, 2021, 2:01 am
#83
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However, at that stage the flight has not yet been cancelled. Sometimes, BA zeroes a flight simply as a way to take it off sale until it has a better idea of whether or not it will make sense to operate it; if the decision is later that the flight will operate after all, availability is put back in. But on other occasions, zeroing the flight is just the first step in the process that leads to cancellation.
It's impossible to know for sure which alternative it is, until BA either cancels the flight or puts availability back in. So there is always an element of guessing, educated or otherwise. In the case of the JNB flights that I've been watching, I'm pretty confident that I'm right about it being a forthcoming cancellation, but it's still a guess.
If you want to move flights right away, before your flight is actually formally cancelled, you'd have to ask BA whether or not it will allow you to do this. You may have to wait until there is a formal cancellation - but if you want to move dates entirely, you may lose little by waiting especially as a formal cancellation gives you more rights.
Jul 2, 2021, 2:40 am
#84
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Quite agree and feel the same about my usual route - MIA.
BA still have a 2 x daily 77W (207) and now A350 (209) scheduled for August.
I can’t think for a minute that these 2 rotations will stick, with the daily AA 77W plying the route too.
One of the reasons why I bagged the AA seats in F rather than BA207, which I reckon will get canned in due course.
BA still have a 2 x daily 77W (207) and now A350 (209) scheduled for August.
I can’t think for a minute that these 2 rotations will stick, with the daily AA 77W plying the route too.
One of the reasons why I bagged the AA seats in F rather than BA207, which I reckon will get canned in due course.
Jul 2, 2021, 3:29 am
#85
Join Date: Jan 2005
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You can no longer book a flight if there is no availability, so when all booking classes are zeroed this is what happens.
However, at that stage the flight has not yet been cancelled. Sometimes, BA zeroes a flight simply as a way to take it off sale until it has a better idea of whether or not it will make sense to operate it; if the decision is later that the flight will operate after all, availability is put back in. But on other occasions, zeroing the flight is just the first step in the process that leads to cancellation.
It's impossible to know for sure which alternative it is, until BA either cancels the flight or puts availability back in. So there is always an element of guessing, educated or otherwise. In the case of the JNB flights that I've been watching, I'm pretty confident that I'm right about it being a forthcoming cancellation, but it's still a guess.
If you want to move flights right away, before your flight is actually formally cancelled, you'd have to ask BA whether or not it will allow you to do this. You may have to wait until there is a formal cancellation - but if you want to move dates entirely, you may lose little by waiting especially as a formal cancellation gives you more rights.
However, at that stage the flight has not yet been cancelled. Sometimes, BA zeroes a flight simply as a way to take it off sale until it has a better idea of whether or not it will make sense to operate it; if the decision is later that the flight will operate after all, availability is put back in. But on other occasions, zeroing the flight is just the first step in the process that leads to cancellation.
It's impossible to know for sure which alternative it is, until BA either cancels the flight or puts availability back in. So there is always an element of guessing, educated or otherwise. In the case of the JNB flights that I've been watching, I'm pretty confident that I'm right about it being a forthcoming cancellation, but it's still a guess.
If you want to move flights right away, before your flight is actually formally cancelled, you'd have to ask BA whether or not it will allow you to do this. You may have to wait until there is a formal cancellation - but if you want to move dates entirely, you may lose little by waiting especially as a formal cancellation gives you more rights.
Many thanks for this detailed reply! The cancellation come through this morning so will now call and move back to later in the year
Jul 2, 2021, 5:59 am
#87
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BA will move you (space available) to the AA38 if you want to fly in F (AA Flagship First - I personally don’t mind it, but I’d never pay good money for it) - or take the Club Suite on BA. Be careful accepting the offered BA206 flight as this is likely to be cancelled too, and they will probably bung you on the 208 anyway.
Jul 2, 2021, 10:29 am
#89
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What are the chances of BA274 from LAS to LHR getting cancelled on August 27? As connecting in LHR still comes with a few requirements, I would not mind them rebooking me to an AA flight via DFW or CLT. Final destination is FRA.
Jul 2, 2021, 10:36 am
#90
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By the way, AA also cancelled CLT-FRA for the remainder of the summer season thus your best option would be to rerouted through DFW.