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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#3526
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,472
Following on from the comment about AA pushing back on reinstating original itineraries has anyone else noticed AA seeming to be more aggressively removing legs when rescheduling?
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
#3527
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 397
Following on from the comment about AA pushing back on reinstating original itineraries has anyone else noticed AA seeming to be more aggressively removing legs when rescheduling?
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
#3528
Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance
Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
Programs: UA-1K 3MM/HY- LT Globalist/BA-GGL/GfL
Posts: 12,090
Following on from the comment about AA pushing back on reinstating original itineraries has anyone else noticed AA seeming to be more aggressively removing legs when rescheduling?
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
Having said that, I called AA in the UK and fed them replacement flights which they happily booked and reticketed for me.
#3529
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: RSW
Programs: QF WP LTG
Posts: 252
Following on from the comment about AA pushing back on reinstating original itineraries has anyone else noticed AA seeming to be more aggressively removing legs when rescheduling?
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
I don't know if it's a change in their algorithm, but all of the schedule changes on my booked trips seem to leading to legs being stripped out on each reschedule.... I've lost several transcon A321T legs that way with a move far less pleasant red-eye direct.
#3530
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Pompé, CA/UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, United Premier Silver; Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 73
Though it did take 4 agents via the AA app chat feature.
Pricey flights for the original route but good value for the gamble on a change of itinerary.
#3531
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 17
So I'm seeking a bit of advice...
I purchased the AGP->SFO fare (AGP-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-SFO). I had some changes due to some flight changes, but was still super happy with it, as well as it giving me the TPs I need... But now it seems like AY canned the HEL-AGP leg on the return (the last leg)! I have searched for some alternatives, but it seems like the "best" option would be to return to LHR (or MAD) and then fly to AGP. Would BA even entertain that idea? Or would they want me to cut out the HEL part completely, shafting my tier points significantly.
Thanks in advance,
Kian
I purchased the AGP->SFO fare (AGP-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-SFO). I had some changes due to some flight changes, but was still super happy with it, as well as it giving me the TPs I need... But now it seems like AY canned the HEL-AGP leg on the return (the last leg)! I have searched for some alternatives, but it seems like the "best" option would be to return to LHR (or MAD) and then fly to AGP. Would BA even entertain that idea? Or would they want me to cut out the HEL part completely, shafting my tier points significantly.
Thanks in advance,
Kian
Last edited by Shamankian; Jun 25, 2022 at 2:31 pm
#3532
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Oxford, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 132
Where was the booking available? I remember I checked a few weeks back and it was some travel agent I believe, google flights is only quoting the £341 ticket
#3533
Join Date: Jun 2022
Programs: BA Executive Club
Posts: 15
So I'm seeking a bit of advice...
I purchased the AGP->SFO fare (AGP-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-SFO). I had some changes due to some flight changes, but was still super happy with it, as well as it giving me the TPs I need... But now it seems like AY canned the HEL-AGP leg on the return (the last leg)! I have searched for some alternatives, but it seems like the "best" option would be to return to LHR (or MAD) and then fly to AGP. Would BA even entertain that idea? Or would they want me to cut out the HEL part completely, shafting my tier points significantly.
Thanks in advance,
Kian
I purchased the AGP->SFO fare (AGP-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-SFO). I had some changes due to some flight changes, but was still super happy with it, as well as it giving me the TPs I need... But now it seems like AY canned the HEL-AGP leg on the return (the last leg)! I have searched for some alternatives, but it seems like the "best" option would be to return to LHR (or MAD) and then fly to AGP. Would BA even entertain that idea? Or would they want me to cut out the HEL part completely, shafting my tier points significantly.
Thanks in advance,
Kian
#3534
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 17
I am guessing they have reduced their frequency - my flight was supposed to be on the 30th August, which has been cancelled. I wouldn't mind staying in HEL and taking a flight to AGP the next day (31st August), but it doesn't seem like there is a flight there either... And pushing it even further back, I will miss my positional flight return.
#3535
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 45
AY to Dubai in Business from €989
Got this email with good availability Jan - Mar 2023 on AY flights HEL to Dubai in business from €989. Even cheaper if starting in Oslo… https://luxuryflightclub.cmail19.com...tl-wmkdllht-t/
But looking at positioning flights LHR - HEL in business is coming in nearly £600 return. Oslo (business) cheaper but only 40 TPs and needs an overnight stay.
Anyone got thoughts on positioning options? Was thinking a cheeky weekend (but not if it’s astronomical).
Thanks
But looking at positioning flights LHR - HEL in business is coming in nearly £600 return. Oslo (business) cheaper but only 40 TPs and needs an overnight stay.
Anyone got thoughts on positioning options? Was thinking a cheeky weekend (but not if it’s astronomical).
Thanks
#3536
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA GfL & GGL, FB Platinum, MB Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,403
I’ve booked this for January and selected positioning flights in economy with KLM, because as you say, AY is super expensive.
#3537
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,110
Got this email with good availability Jan - Mar 2023 on AY flights HEL to Dubai in business from €989. Even cheaper if starting in Oslo… https://luxuryflightclub.cmail19.com...tl-wmkdllht-t/
But looking at positioning flights LHR - HEL in business is coming in nearly £600 return. Oslo (business) cheaper but only 40 TPs and needs an overnight stay.
Anyone got thoughts on positioning options? Was thinking a cheeky weekend (but not if it’s astronomical).
Thanks
But looking at positioning flights LHR - HEL in business is coming in nearly £600 return. Oslo (business) cheaper but only 40 TPs and needs an overnight stay.
Anyone got thoughts on positioning options? Was thinking a cheeky weekend (but not if it’s astronomical).
Thanks
Note that the HEL - DXB sector is a "short-haul" product (akin to Club Europe on CAI/AMM etc currently), the only difference being AY is deploying A350s during W22 season but it'll still be a short-haul soft-product.
#3538
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 45
[QUOTENote that the HEL - DXB sector is a "short-haul" product (akin to Club Europe on CAI/AMM etc currently), the only difference being AY is deploying A350s during W22 season but it'll still be a short-haul soft-product.[/QUOTE]
Thanks - so is the A350 HEL - DXB.not flat-bed? It’s a 7.5h leg…
?
Thanks - so is the A350 HEL - DXB.not flat-bed? It’s a 7.5h leg…
?
#3539
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,110
So by short-haul business product, AY are currently only offering one meal choice (usually vegetarian or fish dish), no bedding, perhaps just pillow/cushion and if bedding requested, it won’t be the full bedding used on long-haul J. Still I don’t think any of this will make it a dreadful experience by any means, but it’s just worth bearing in mind
#3540
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 45
Thanks.
Managed to get LHR - HEL - DBX return (A350s both LHR legs /A330s DBX) for £1,030.37 all-in via Finnair so have booked it.
Managed to get LHR - HEL - DBX return (A350s both LHR legs /A330s DBX) for £1,030.37 all-in via Finnair so have booked it.
Last edited by LondonGlobalist; Jun 26, 2022 at 4:56 pm