FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jun 13, 2020, 8:48 am
#811
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Jun 13, 2020, 8:56 am
#812
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Everybody gets that 75% year. The reason for using the word "next" is because it doesn't apply to their current year.
Jun 13, 2020, 9:01 am
#814
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BA told me that my TP wont reset next May and I have a 24 months period to collect.... and thats obviously not true either.
i just see it coming that i have 3750 TP by next April and wont earn GGL for the first time ever and will be sad....
i just see it coming that i have 3750 TP by next April and wont earn GGL for the first time ever and will be sad....
Jun 13, 2020, 9:02 am
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Jun 13, 2020, 9:07 am
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Where the reduced Tier Point thresholds appear to apply in the 'current' year is where people want to move up tiers. Don't they therefore benefit during their 'current' collection year from the 25% reduction?
Jun 13, 2020, 9:07 am
#817
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Yes absolutely, I was just confused we are treating second years any different when they have the same reduction as the current
Jun 13, 2020, 9:10 am
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I'm pretty clear about the 25% reduction applying in the Tier Point collection year following the extension. In my case I was GGL/CCR until March 8th 2021 and because of the extension I now have GGL/CCR status until March 8th 2022 (card end April 30th 2022). I therefore need to earn 3750 Tier Points starting on March 9th 2021 to re-qualify from 2022 onwards. This is clear and fits with your definition of 'next'.
Where the reduced Tier Point thresholds appear to apply in the 'current' year is where people want to move up tiers. Don't they therefore benefit during their 'current' collection year from the 25% reduction?
Where the reduced Tier Point thresholds appear to apply in the 'current' year is where people want to move up tiers. Don't they therefore benefit during their 'current' collection year from the 25% reduction?
Jun 13, 2020, 9:10 am
#819
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Jun 13, 2020, 9:13 am
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I would say even if you have managed to requalify it would be fair for BA to provide an extension as you’ve not been able to utilise your status for a good chunk of the year.
Jun 13, 2020, 9:17 am
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So you have qualified for 2021 twice over, once under the offer and once for either gaining Gold or renewing Gold early. The extension helps those who would struggle to hit Gold, something that hasn't affected you or me, however you benefit it being easier to continue being Gold from 1 December 2021.
Jun 13, 2020, 9:20 am
#822
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I can deploy my Whiskas argument if you like, since utilising status is less interesting to BA than booking tickets, but in any event the options to fly from 1 July are greatly higher than from 1 April, May or June, as things stand.
Jun 13, 2020, 9:25 am
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Jun 13, 2020, 9:29 am
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So you have qualified for 2021 twice over, once under the offer and once for either gaining Gold or renewing Gold early. The extension helps those who would struggle to hit Gold, something that hasn't affected you or me, however you benefit it being easier to continue being Gold from 1 December 2021.
In the example given by Chemicalwoody, the words say that prior to the email he was gold until 31st November 2021, and the words in the email say 12 months will be added to this. Where does it say that something different will happen?
Jun 13, 2020, 9:29 am
#825
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This is my main area of confusion. Others are saying quite the opposite, that those re-qualifying at their current tier will indeed get an extra year through to 2022. Maybe someone can point to the condition that states those already re-qualifying in the current year for next will not get the promised extra 12 months.
Firstly a big thank you to ManchesterBAFlyer for this simple guide to the changes. I've been through it carefully and made some calls, and it seems accurate to me. ManchesterBAFlyer has put 4 scenarios afterwards and I think they cover most of the queries raised so far, bearing in mind that though Gold was used in the examples, it actually applies to other status levels too. Click here for the full post.
I am going to do a slightly amended version.
- not everyone benefits from an extension, for example you've already earned enough to qualify or have upgraded your status
- everyone benefits from a year of reduced thresholds for one renewal.
- everyone - except some GGLs - benefit from lower threasholds for upgrade possibilities.
I am going to do a slightly amended version.
- Take your status on the day of the announcement - 11 June 2020.
- This status will last you 12 further months than your current tier year and expiry date. If you already earned enough tier points for that to happen anyway, or had a recent status upgrade, then you don’t benefit from the extension.
- You need to start earning tier points from your next tier year end after 11 June 2020 to maintain status for the following year. Tier points earned before then could get you a status upgrade, but you are guaranteed not to drop if you don't earn any or many tier points. So if you're not likely to earn enough to get an upgrade to your status, they are essentially useless other than adding to your lifetime tier points.
- If that next tier year ends before 8 July 2022, you only need 75% of the usual number of tier points to requalify or upgrade.
- If your tier year was 8 May or 8 June 2020 and you are due to drop a level, this announcement doesn't save you from the drop, unless you qualify under the lower thresholds or on a case-by-case basis where BAEC accept your cancelled reservations as evidence you would have made the thresholds. If you are OK with the lower level drop, then you benefit from renewal at that level without needing to earn TPs in the year ahead of you, see point 3.
- Note that though there is a waiver on eligible flights in the extension scenarios, you still need them for upgrading a level and for renewing that upgrade.
- not everyone benefits from an extension, for example you've already earned enough to qualify or have upgraded your status
- everyone benefits from a year of reduced thresholds for one renewal.
- everyone - except some GGLs - benefit from lower threasholds for upgrade possibilities.
Do you move up a tier immediately (or on your next tier year end); and assuming you do move up a tier, is this treated in the same way as if you were the new higher tier on 11 June?