FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jun 13, 2020, 11:11 am
#856
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,415
"The 12-month status extension will be applied automatically to those memberships with Tier Point collection end dates of July 2020 – June 2021. There is no need to contact us to arrange this."
But almost everyone in the BAEC scheme has a Tier Point collection end date in that range. I dropped to Bronze this year and then achieved silver this year just before lockdown and my Silver membership expires 31 Dec 2021. I received the email so I sort of expect a year will be added.
But almost everyone in the BAEC scheme has a Tier Point collection end date in that range. I dropped to Bronze this year and then achieved silver this year just before lockdown and my Silver membership expires 31 Dec 2021. I received the email so I sort of expect a year will be added.
Everyone does benefit so the email is correct. At a min 25% reduction. But it's taken by many FT posters and let alone by others who don't frequent FT, that it means a free additional year for everyone, no matter what.
The policy in itself address the current issues. Current issues. But BA really should have considered the email communication better.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is addressed in some manner in the weeks and months to come. And more changes may be come along.
And I'm a ba supporter for lots of different reasons.
Last edited by crazyarmadillo; Jun 13, 2020 at 11:18 am
Jun 13, 2020, 11:13 am
#857
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,092
Yes, your new collection year should benefit from the lower threshold for the new tier year, ditto for upgrades, but for upgrades some of the flights need to be on BA or Iberia.
Jun 13, 2020, 11:15 am
#858
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,092
Jun 13, 2020, 11:16 am
#859
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PlatMM, BA and Alaska Emerald, HHonors DIA, Accor, Marriott Titanium, IHG Plat Amb, UA Silver, AA
Posts: 4,519
Jun 13, 2020, 11:21 am
#860
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,920
The £50 wouldn’t worry me, but dropping from GGL/CCR to silver In 12 months time would be a big disappointment. I guess that would be a bit like flying First or CW for 5 years and then having to fly WT! One does become accustomed to the benefits! Fortunately I still have GfL.
As I said way upthread, there are winners and losers and I’m pleased for those who benefit, particularly Apr-June renewals or upgrades, who seem to have hit the sweet spot in all of this.
Jun 13, 2020, 11:44 am
#861
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 155
Yes they went from a 30% reduction to 25% and it would have been better to have stayed consistent. So yes, if you want an extended year at Bronze you better get the extra 5 TPs if you can. But if priority boarding was the only reason for doing this, note that has been scrubbed, it's now back to front boarding (and very civilised it is too). I hope they keep it that way, but it is presumably a temporary change.
I guess at a minimum I get a year 'extension' at Blue status and can still take advantage of the reduced thresholds next year between Sept 2020 -> Sept 2021 for Status to October 2022.
Jun 13, 2020, 12:06 pm
#862
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 69
I find this
and this...
...contradicting. First says that if you qualified for Gold given the timelines explained for Person A (who happens to be my case) you will still see an extension until 2022. Second says that if you've already earned enough to qualify then you will not get an extension.
Person A qualified for/retained Gold when their tier year ended on 8 June 2020:
- Their current status year is until 8 June 2021, so their Gold will be renewed until 8 June 2022 (expiring end July 2022), regardless of whether they earn enough tier points in their 2020-2021 tier year.
...contradicting. First says that if you qualified for Gold given the timelines explained for Person A (who happens to be my case) you will still see an extension until 2022. Second says that if you've already earned enough to qualify then you will not get an extension.
Jun 13, 2020, 12:10 pm
#863
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: BAEC Silver, Volare Executive / Skyteam Elite+
Posts: 673
I'm reading it all as and assuming the logical reading; take out the physical card you have, look at the 'expires end' date, and add a year to it.
If it's anything else they should pivot towards this reading anyway given this is what they announced (even if they did intend something else)
If it's anything else they should pivot towards this reading anyway given this is what they announced (even if they did intend something else)
Jun 13, 2020, 12:56 pm
#864
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: BA GOLD
Posts: 604
I have no idea - flaky BA IT I suspect but I checked both on my laptop and the app and it stated Gold achieved at 1749 GMT and by 1900 it was back down to Silver. I assume it was because at that particular point I had 1060 TP's.
Last edited by Brighterside; Jun 13, 2020 at 1:03 pm
Jun 13, 2020, 1:06 pm
#865
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,631
Not in all cases - in my case, the stranger who is giving you £100 is taking 50 from me (ie the 25% off for my next year after my July qualification which I had already achieved anyway does not even cover the TPs I've lost through my July itineraries that BA has already cancelled, and I am even losing some GUFs in the process!)
Jun 13, 2020, 1:20 pm
#866
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BOS, YYZ, HKG, TPE
Programs: OZ Diamond, DL Gold, QF Gold, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, WoH Explorist, Shangri-la Jade
Posts: 304
does anyone know if new members are able to benefit from the lowered thresholds? considering between BA and AA right now..
Jun 13, 2020, 1:28 pm
#867
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,092
OK, I can see what you mean, but it isn't really a contradiction. My round-up at the end was a general summary, that not all people in all circumstances get an extension, for various reasons. Some people do benefit, and yes, that includes you because of the timings of your circumstances. So I will add "depending on timings" to post 796 to clarify. So you are Gold now anyway until June 2021, any TPs you earn don't do much good, since you get an automatic extension to cover you until the end of 2022. Had you been a July or August renewal you may be a bit more grumpy about the arrangement.
Jun 13, 2020, 1:34 pm
#868
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,092
Aha, a brand new and very relevant question, and I for one don't know the answer for certain. But if you joined right now, you would get Blue status after the first flight had credited and my thinking is that at least for a few months you could get Bronze (etc) at the lower thresholds. But I don't actually know this for a fact. BA ought to do so, if they are drumming up business. Maybe one of the Twitter FTers can check? [It's possible that they won't know yet].
Jun 13, 2020, 1:45 pm
#869
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,635
Not in all cases - in my case, the stranger who is giving you £100 is taking 50 from me (ie the 25% off for my next year after my July qualification which I had already achieved anyway does not even cover the TPs I've lost through my July itineraries that BA has already cancelled, and I am even losing some GUFs in the process!)