DYKWIA | 2020/21 edition
#406
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Hertfordshire
Programs: BA Gold, Accor Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 553
It was kicking off earlier this morning in GF due to a bit of a breakfast hiccup.
A number of parties were starting to become visibly agitated at the time it was taking for hot items to be served, and we were sat there for a good 20 mins and didn’t see any hot items brought from the kitchen. A slightly elderly woman then started complaining to the Baxter Storey staff and started to make a bit of a scene. One of the Concorde staff was summoned and then the lady started shouting at the CC staffer. She then started shouting BRING ME SOME PASTRIES, BRING ME ANYTHING, ITS NOT LIKE WE’VE GOT A FLIGHT TO CATCH!
The CC staffer then approached our table and apologised for the wait. She explained that the printer had broken in the kitchen and the staff hadn’t realised, so weren’t receiving any orders to process. The problem was now fixed, but there was a backlog of orders.
A gentleman from the other side of the lounge then came marching over to the CC staffer and started shouting about it being unacceptable to wait half an hour and so on. He was then given some croissants and shouted GOLD CARD HOLDER FIRST CLASS, WHO CARES? and stormed off, throwing his 3 croissants down on to an empty table.
A number of parties were starting to become visibly agitated at the time it was taking for hot items to be served, and we were sat there for a good 20 mins and didn’t see any hot items brought from the kitchen. A slightly elderly woman then started complaining to the Baxter Storey staff and started to make a bit of a scene. One of the Concorde staff was summoned and then the lady started shouting at the CC staffer. She then started shouting BRING ME SOME PASTRIES, BRING ME ANYTHING, ITS NOT LIKE WE’VE GOT A FLIGHT TO CATCH!
The CC staffer then approached our table and apologised for the wait. She explained that the printer had broken in the kitchen and the staff hadn’t realised, so weren’t receiving any orders to process. The problem was now fixed, but there was a backlog of orders.
A gentleman from the other side of the lounge then came marching over to the CC staffer and started shouting about it being unacceptable to wait half an hour and so on. He was then given some croissants and shouted GOLD CARD HOLDER FIRST CLASS, WHO CARES? and stormed off, throwing his 3 croissants down on to an empty table.
Last edited by cameramaker; Oct 31, 2020 at 12:38 am
#407
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
It’s good that the staff explained the issue... transparency in communication normally goes a long way toward soothing the hot tempers.
#408
Community Director
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Norwich, UK
Programs: A3*G, BA Gold, BD Gold (in memoriam), IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 8,478
Printing and Breakfast - the gift that just keeps on giving ...
#410
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Effectively grounded
Programs: BA GGL for a little while longer
Posts: 844
And the kitchen didn't wonder why it suddenly went quiet at a normally busy time of day?
Rather a lack of common sense there I think, sadly this concurs with our own experience of (some) of the GF - and even CCR - staff over the years...
Rather a lack of common sense there I think, sadly this concurs with our own experience of (some) of the GF - and even CCR - staff over the years...
#411
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,238
its not like any commercial kitchen at the start of the day has any time to take a pause or a break as they ready everything for the entire day!
#412
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: DXB/JFK/LHR
Programs: BA GGLfL, ex-EK IO, IC Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador, Amex Centurion
Posts: 266
Maybe I had a DYKWIA moment - or something along those lines.
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
#413
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 547
Maybe I had a DYKWIA moment - or something along those lines.
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
#414
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 5,380
Maybe I had a DYKWIA moment - or something along those lines.
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
I was flying MAN-LHR-DXB in F last week. The last time I tried to check-in at MAN, the queue was almost an hour-long as MAN no longer have a priority check-in (huffs loudly). With this in mind, I checked in on-line but given that you had to show a negative Covid test result to get a LHR-DXB boarding pass, I elected to do this at the flight connections centre at T5 (bad move) as on-line check was unavailable.
Upon landing, I walked towards the flight connections desk only to be told that it wasn't manned and that I would have to exit arrivals to check-in.
So this, I duly did huffing and puffing as I would now have to go through security once again (first world problem I know).
I checked in at the First wing and one of the Concorde team came over to greet me. "Hello, Mr GGLFlyer, nice to see you again. Ms. XXXX did want to be here to say hello but she is too busy now with someone in the Windsor Suite. Was your check-in okay?"
At this point my mini 'polite' rant started:
a. Why does MAN not have priority check-in any more?
b. Why is the domestic T5 connections desk not manned, at least for arriving flights?
c. Why do the check-in agents need to see my Covid result when they also check it at the gate too?
Concorde Team response - "I'll look into all of your points."
I really hope that they do. Fixing point (a) alone would be a game-changer.
I was also a bit miffed to be told that someone was too busy to see me. Would have been better to say nothing, IMHO.
Anyway, worthy of DYKWIA or a justified complaint?
Anyway, you may make some fair complaints here, although these are exceptional times.
#415
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Devon, UK
Programs: VS Silver; Matmid Silver, BA Bronze; Accor Plat.
Posts: 961
if you re-read your post, you will have the answer.
#416
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: KLM, BA Silver, Etihad
Posts: 918
No I'm saying a 6 sector, 48hrs trip to nowhere purely to bump your online content is stretching the realms over what I consider is socially acceptable these days. And as someone who's enjoyed long weekend multi-sector tier point runs in previous years I dont say any of this lightly. I've tried to travel 5 times this year and all 5 trips have been cancelled or curtailed. That's my decision not to repeat any of that for the time being - more so becauae I can't be doing with the refund chasing and calling up when said trips are cancelled. However for completely unnecessary trips to multi-hop my way around Europe in a limited period of time for no other reason than just because I wanted to isn't entering into any responsible behaviour that's going to reduce the spread of this virus. Some trips are necessary and I completely get that. This wasn't one of them
When people get over sensitive about someone lowering a mask for five seconds it also infers that they don’t believe themselves that they really are that effective and in fact they are just angry because they have to wear one so they want everyone to play to their own rules. This is what leads to some of the horrendous treatment of exempt people in public places.
Last edited by RockyRobin; Nov 2, 2020 at 4:57 am Reason: Auto correct error
#417
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: DXB/JFK/LHR
Programs: BA GGLfL, ex-EK IO, IC Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador, Amex Centurion
Posts: 266
In all honesty, it had nothing to do with that, my mini-rant started because I was in front of someone who I considered to be empowered and in the right role to feedback to people that could do something about it. My point re: the Windsor Suite comment was it was like telling me what I could have won on Bullseye! I'd rather not know :-)
#418
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: DXB/JFK/LHR
Programs: BA GGLfL, ex-EK IO, IC Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador, Amex Centurion
Posts: 266
From reading FT, I believe that writing to BA to complain is all too often met with a standard disclaimer/response. I had hoped that the Concorde Team would feedback more appropriately.
That said, I would never make someone feel uncomfortable and my mini-rant was certainly a polite rant merely stating the facts.
#419
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,595
im sorry to save it all sounds a little bit like jealousy. We are all a bit peeved off, I should be in Chicago now now Hertfordshire.
When people get over sensitive about someone lowering a mask for five seconds it also infers that they don’t believe themselves that they really are that effective and in fact they are just angry because they have to wear one so they want everyone to play to their own rules. This is what leads to some of the horrendous treatment of exempt people in public places.
When people get over sensitive about someone lowering a mask for five seconds it also infers that they don’t believe themselves that they really are that effective and in fact they are just angry because they have to wear one so they want everyone to play to their own rules. This is what leads to some of the horrendous treatment of exempt people in public places.
I can assure you that there is/was definitely no jealousy, envy or green eyed hatred over a 6 sector Wizzair flight to nowhere. Just fed up with pointless stupidity of some people, that's all. Some people attract attention for all the wrong reasons. This guy in my opinion was courting attention for some pointless trip but also as a side remark was noted for his conduct by not wearing a mask when he should have been wearing one. Not to mention undertaking the trip in the first place. He also broke his 14 day home quarantine after returning from a country not on the UK approved corridor at the time in order to partake in more aviation related stuff which he went on to tweet about at the time.
When you're pedalling your wares as some sort of self styled "aviation journalist" or blogger and putting yourself out there as some sort of public figure, you need to be extra careful not to damage your personal brand by inappropriate or unacceptable behaviour. At least have the forward thinking to expect others are going to scrutinize your actions when you're putting the content out there and it's not playing in accordance with the rules.
Rules that I've not made I might add but I'm able to follow. What's his excuse?
Last edited by 1Aturnleft; Nov 1, 2020 at 3:16 pm
#420
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Brexile in ADB
Programs: BA, TK, HHonours, Le Club, Best Western Rewards
Posts: 7,067
Crikey I thought this was dead an buried months ago!
I can assure you that there is/was definitely no jealousy, envy or green eyed hatred over a 6 sector Wizzair flight to nowhere. Just fed up with pointless stupidity of some people, that's all. Some people attract attention for all the wrong reasons. This guy in my opinion was courting attention for some pointless trip but also as a side remark was noted for his conduct by not wearing a mask when he should have been wearing one. Not to mention undertaking the trip in the first place. He also broke his 14 day home quarantine after returning from a country not on the UK approved corridor at the time in order to partake in more aviation related stuff which he went on to tweet about at the time.
When you're pedalling your wares as some sort of self styled "aviation journalist" or blogger and putting yourself out there as some sort of public figure, you need to be extra careful not to damage your personal brand by inappropriate or unacceptable behaviour. At least have the forward thinking to expect others are going to scrutinize your actions when you're putting the content out there and it's not playing in accordance with the rules.
Rules that I've not made I might add but I'm able to follow. What's his excuse?
I can assure you that there is/was definitely no jealousy, envy or green eyed hatred over a 6 sector Wizzair flight to nowhere. Just fed up with pointless stupidity of some people, that's all. Some people attract attention for all the wrong reasons. This guy in my opinion was courting attention for some pointless trip but also as a side remark was noted for his conduct by not wearing a mask when he should have been wearing one. Not to mention undertaking the trip in the first place. He also broke his 14 day home quarantine after returning from a country not on the UK approved corridor at the time in order to partake in more aviation related stuff which he went on to tweet about at the time.
When you're pedalling your wares as some sort of self styled "aviation journalist" or blogger and putting yourself out there as some sort of public figure, you need to be extra careful not to damage your personal brand by inappropriate or unacceptable behaviour. At least have the forward thinking to expect others are going to scrutinize your actions when you're putting the content out there and it's not playing in accordance with the rules.
Rules that I've not made I might add but I'm able to follow. What's his excuse?