‘FLUB’ class: travel in First (F) cabin but with Club (J) service on 4-class aircraft
Sep 21, 2022, 4:26 pm
#361
Join Date: Sep 2022
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Travelling with wife in CW next month (777, old Club World showing in 4-class aircraft, no First sold). Seat choice map showing very few seats available and none of them would let us sit together. Any chance the map is not showing the true availability of seats in CW ? I.e. do BA allocate seats in advance, not making them available for others to select ?
Sep 21, 2022, 4:38 pm
#362
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Travelling with wife in CW next month (777, old Club World showing in 4-class aircraft, no First sold). Seat choice map showing very few seats available and none of them would let us sit together. Any chance the map is not showing the true availability of seats in CW ? I.e. do BA allocate seats in advance, not making them available for others to select ?
No BA do not allocate the F cabin in advance.
No you cannot influence being moved into FLUB if the cabin is used on the day, BA Gold will help but even then its not a given. Assume to be flying in your paid cabin.
Last edited by 1Aturnleft; Sep 21, 2022 at 7:04 pm
Sep 21, 2022, 5:02 pm
#363
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: York, UK
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I didn't report at the time, but early in July I got FLUB going to YYZ.
F Was blocked when I checked in, I kept checking the seat map and noticed F was being used. Went to guest services in the lounge and they made a few calls "there's a list, I'm not allowed to move you".
About 45 mins later I was moved from the last row of Club (rebooked day before) to 2K. I was delayed over 24 hours, but BA redeemed themselves with that!
Coming back FLUB wasn't used, I did ask on board but got a firm "NO" off the IFM.
F Was blocked when I checked in, I kept checking the seat map and noticed F was being used. Went to guest services in the lounge and they made a few calls "there's a list, I'm not allowed to move you".
About 45 mins later I was moved from the last row of Club (rebooked day before) to 2K. I was delayed over 24 hours, but BA redeemed themselves with that!
Coming back FLUB wasn't used, I did ask on board but got a firm "NO" off the IFM.
Sep 25, 2022, 10:50 am
#364
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 343
also FLUB’d on that route, landed this morning, so assume the day after you. Interestingly this FLUB had first class amenity kits and bedding, though food was Club. Previously when flub’ed the bedding and amenity were club.
was quite surprised to be flub’d given it was a reward flight with 241.
was quite surprised to be flub’d given it was a reward flight with 241.
Sep 25, 2022, 7:42 pm
#366
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton
Posts: 221
My FLUB on Friday to Orlando (G-VIIY) was the same (bedding and headset). Just me and a young couple in F, they may have been staff or clingons as they were very quiet. Best thing was having almost exclusive use of the (flower-less) F toilet.
Sep 27, 2022, 5:20 am
#367
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
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My friend and I (both GCH) were moved into FLUB on our recent flights to and from TLV. The cabin was blocked at check in on both flights, but we were moved a few hours before departure and before we got to the airport on each occasion. 6/8 seats were occupied on the outbound, and all 8 on the return. On the outbound a lady sitting in the mini CW cabin was most put out that she hadn't been moved into F and made quite a fuss about it, but the crew insisted that they couldn't move her. She did then proceed to use the F loo quite a lot during the flight, as did quite a few other people in the mini cabin.
Another point of reference, a friend (also GCH) was also moved into FLUB on a recent Delhi flight.
Another point of reference, a friend (also GCH) was also moved into FLUB on a recent Delhi flight.
Sep 27, 2022, 5:28 am
#368
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All CW customers can you the forward toilet if FLUB is used, all seats in the CW must remain full for the First cabin to be used, I’m pleased the crew followed the rules in refusing the move.
Sep 27, 2022, 5:38 am
#369
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Out of interest, do BA crew call this scenario "FLUB" or it is just known as "opening First cos Club is full?!"
Sep 27, 2022, 5:41 am
#371
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London
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I know they can, I was just quite surprised at how many people kept coming up, rather than going to where there was more than one toilet to choose from, it seemed like there was a continual queue
Oct 15, 2022, 9:44 am
#373
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
First seats in Club
I travelled Toronto to Heathrow recently and noticed the flight had a first cabin for business tickets. How do you book the first seats? Is this limited to Gold cards? I don’t believe that there was a First service on the flight.
Oct 15, 2022, 9:48 am
#374
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Yes this is known as FLUB when a four class aircraft operates on a route which doesn’t actually sell F
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-aircraft.html
basic principles are that the first cabin isn’t used unless club is full and the extra seats are needed, and even if you sit there you get club service.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-aircraft.html
basic principles are that the first cabin isn’t used unless club is full and the extra seats are needed, and even if you sit there you get club service.
