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Old Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.

This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.

Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html

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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445

Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)

Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284


Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792


Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793


Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003

Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)

Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733

Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)

Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).

Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)

Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:

LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine

LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini


Structured into:

Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6


Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2


Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by paulaf
Many thanks, where are you going in November we're off to Malaga?
We're off to Tenerife. Hopefully still hot in November.
As it is an early flight, it'll be croissants in the lounge and full English breakfast on board (well, I'll eat the bacon and sausage and bread roll).

Reminds me, looked for the Bolney self pour in the lounge this month to try a sip, none to be seen. Well, it was early morning, 8 ish, so too early I suppose
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
The Rotations are set in stone, seemingly, moreover so far the menu contents have not altered since they started in the Spring. I guess they will change at some point, but as far as I can tell, November is the same Rotation A as last time. If you check back here in the first few days of November usually someone will have posted something new, but I doubt it will change.
Thanks - am going in the middle of November so will check back before then.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 11:38 pm
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Added CWS's useful post 1175 into the Wiki since we seem to get a lot of questions around that. Feel free to modify as appropriate.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 1:32 am
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Got the "Long short-haul" treatment LHR-HEL-LHR again for a change. Total inconsistency. One way we got the full treatment, starting with a drinks service, tray served from trolley, mains served individually and coffee/tea service individually. So everything was spot-on par the lack of menus.

The other way I had to wait for 1.5 hours before I got food (and even then still no drinks). They did go through the trouble of taking orders first though. Personally absolutely hated the service on this flight. No surprise that I got the beetroot starter again

Well, at least we get 2 forks and 2 knives nowadays. It also seems I should be happy to just get fed on a flight nowadays.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 5:55 am
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Fantastic service in my LHR - GLA yesterday - drinks run with cashews followed by a nice meal service and multiple top-ups offered. Champagne was chilled and the crew were fantastic. Was only four rows of CE which maybe helped. As previously mentioned it is the total inconsistency in service levels and styles that is frustrating. When you get a good crew CE can be a very enjoyable experience.

Next week I have four sectors with KLM and Air France in short haul business and am quite intrigued to see how they compare.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 3:00 pm
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English breakfast on LHR-MAD flight



Scrambled eggs were disgusting everything else was just ok. Meal was warm, not hot - I guess it got cold by the time the crew go to the last row...

Really miss the fresh fruit from the tray... but hey, now we got a bread plate!
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 11:00 pm
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The vegetarian omelette on the same LHR-MAD flight.

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Old Oct 16, 2017, 12:36 am
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Just an update, flew to Barcelona in late September and ordered Asian Vegetarian. Got a really nice lentil salad with couscous and spiced Tofu plus a cardomen and sultana cheese cake. Very tasty although would have loved some veggie sushi instead. Apologies for not posting sooner. This was on a 5:30pm flight

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Old Oct 16, 2017, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by aks120
The vegetarian omelette on the same LHR-MAD flight.

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I always order this SPML but I just can't eat it now. Oily, waterry yuk.
Last time I ordere the mozarella tomato hot focaccia from the BOB menu. Much better
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 1:21 am
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Originally Posted by gismo1554
Just an update, flew to Barcelona in late September and ordered Asian Vegetarian. Got a really nice lentil salad with couscous and spiced Tofu plus a cardomen and sultana cheese cake. Very tasty although would have loved some veggie sushi instead. Apologies for not posting sooner
Could you please say what time your flight was leaving? SPML for short/medium vary by meal window so the information is important. Thanks.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by Vinotraveller
Fantastic service in my LHR - GLA yesterday - drinks run with cashews followed by a nice meal service and multiple top-ups offered. Champagne was chilled and the crew were fantastic. Was only four rows of CE which maybe helped. As previously mentioned it is the total inconsistency in service levels and styles that is frustrating. When you get a good crew CE can be a very enjoyable experience.

Next week I have four sectors with KLM and Air France in short haul business and am quite intrigued to see how they compare.
I find this the case one sector drinks served followed by meal ( if you can call it a meal) on return drinks served with coffee/tea). This costs BA nothing except proper training, cabin crew should all be trained to one standard which is down to management. On the subject of meals, why can’t BA serve M&S ready meals surely better than the crappy panini! To be honest I only fly CE for tier points, and try to get them on Asian carriers where they know how to do service. Once I reach silver each year am relieved to not have to endure the abo y of CE. Lounge food is preferable to on board dining any day!
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 5:32 am
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Friend just headed out in CE to Bucharest
Upgrade at check in yesterday
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He is in the back row of CE row 6
Mains look resonable
Have warned him re reviews of the beetroot starter
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by aks120
The vegetarian omelette on the same LHR-MAD flight.

Aks120
That doesn't look too dissimilar to the IB breakfast I was recently served on same route, except on IB there was a small fruit plate and some other extra bits and bobs on the tray.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 6:51 am
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There were no choices on my recent jolly to MAN.

Afternoon tea was just sandwiches (no salad alternative) and on the way back, for dinner, it was just the salad (no hot sandwich).

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Old Oct 16, 2017, 8:31 am
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The menu containng beef check is my favourite one. A very minor issue is that the oatcakes and hazelnut tower look similar from above. It is a little bit dull. Luckily the taste is different and event the dessert is wonderful.
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