Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Apr 20, 2017, 3:29 pm
#737
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Albania
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold
Posts: 47
Had a first experience of the new CE service yesterday on TIA to LGW. Main differences were the inclusion of a starter (smoked salmon), with separate service for main course (thyme roast chicken). And then wine by the glass (Spanish Sauvignon Blanc). Have to say it was all good although the excellent service by the CSM, Colin, probably made more difference than the food itself. We had a personal welcome, update on expected arrival time and very good attention throughout the flight.
Downside (off topic) was the screaming 'baby' in 1D. I say baby as he/she was probably only just under 2. The father's solution was to stand in the aisle. holding her. As I was in 1C, that just brought the screaming closer!
Downside (off topic) was the screaming 'baby' in 1D. I say baby as he/she was probably only just under 2. The father's solution was to stand in the aisle. holding her. As I was in 1C, that just brought the screaming closer!
Apr 21, 2017, 3:19 am
#738
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Posts: 17,007
Hi guys!
I wanted to write a post (and then found this thread) when I first experienced the new CE catering few weeks ago flying GVA-LHR and having to choose between a panini and a one-prawn "salad"...man it was awful compared to how they treated you before! Can't consider this an improvement at all...hopefully I'll soon fly on some long CE route and I hope to experience something better!
I wanted to write a post (and then found this thread) when I first experienced the new CE catering few weeks ago flying GVA-LHR and having to choose between a panini and a one-prawn "salad"...man it was awful compared to how they treated you before! Can't consider this an improvement at all...hopefully I'll soon fly on some long CE route and I hope to experience something better!
Thanks for taking the plunge and I look forward to seeing you around.
Apr 21, 2017, 4:26 am
#739
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Apr 21, 2017, 4:46 am
#740
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Sounds like you didn't get to enjoy the (all-new) CE premium dessert, as pictured upthread (post #699 ) : 80 grams of sliced apple & grapes, elegantly presented in a plastic bag, kiddies kindergarten lunch-box style.
Something to look forward to perhaps on one of your future CE sectors with BA ......
Something to look forward to perhaps on one of your future CE sectors with BA ......
Apr 21, 2017, 5:29 am
#741
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Apr 21, 2017, 7:06 am
#742
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Somewhere around Europe...
Programs: BA Gold; MB Ti; HH Diamond; IHG Plat; RR Gold
Posts: 530
Assuming someone hasn't beaten me to it by then, I have another CE trip next week and I've ordered the Kosher meal again. It'll be a lunchtime service rather than evening, but will be interesting to compare the "Passover Dinner" to the standard lunch.
Apr 21, 2017, 8:27 am
#743
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In Italian the noun panino ; plural panini) is a diminutive of pane ("bread") and literally refers to a bread roll. Panino imbottito ("stuffed panino") refers to a sandwich, but the word panino is also often used alone to indicate a sandwich in general.
It's a bit like Forum, Fora, Forums.
Apr 21, 2017, 8:49 am
#744
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Passover will be long gone next week, it's already over! I mentioned the regular short/medium kosher lunch I had in the first week of the new CE catering operation (ie pre-Passover) somewhere upthread; it was a very good cured salmon with some salad.
Apr 21, 2017, 9:19 am
#745
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Somewhere around Europe...
Programs: BA Gold; MB Ti; HH Diamond; IHG Plat; RR Gold
Posts: 530
Indeed you did, I'd forgotten about that! If it does turn out to be the salmon it'd be a good result, especially compared to the singular prawn salad...
Apr 21, 2017, 10:07 am
#746
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,105
I decided to give the short/medium kosher lunch a try I'll see in 2 weeks how it goes.
I'll see in 2 weeks how it goes.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:49 am
#747
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Hermiolis piles food on, maybe also because their top airline customer must be LY which serves much larger meals than BA in the first place!The Passover meal was a bit weirder than the regular one before, which I found better. Quantities were comparable. I was going to try AVML next, but having seen the comment, I'll probably stick to KSML for short and medium (more than happy to have the regular meal on long as they all look nice except breakfast).
Apr 21, 2017, 4:25 pm
#748
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Apr 21, 2017, 4:47 pm
#749
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With this level of praise for the KSML offering, I foresee a big spike in requests being made by those booking CE flights !
Cue more envious glances from fellow travellers as they see their seat neighbour tucking into a substantial KSML - in marked contrast to the already infamous (all-new & improved) one-prawn CE salad.
Cue more envious glances from fellow travellers as they see their seat neighbour tucking into a substantial KSML - in marked contrast to the already infamous (all-new & improved) one-prawn CE salad.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:41 pm
#750
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It's vegetarian sushi! Not a bit of fish involved. As mentioned that spml is the one size fit all from vegetarian to diabetic via low lactose etc. For all I know it may well be the child meal too as tomato-mozzarella was that too as well as all else!