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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
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  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
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See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Jun 6, 2017, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by squawk
To be honest, I think your plan is a sensible one. You'll be 110 TP up for your next TP year (and should get a few more Avios as Silver on the return leg too).

You could always do a different SH+ return for 160 TP, but I am not aware of any that are particularly cheap at present, and LHR-HEL-TLL return for £330-odd is still very good value per TP (just not as good as it used to be). As other SH+ destination over that weekend, to straddle your TP year, would also mean you're "only" up by 70TP rather than 110TP.

Tallinn is also a great destination for a 2-4 day weekend break, compared to (for example) Greek islands where you might want to spend longer to enjoy the sun. I'd say go with TLL!
We loved Tallinn but 3 nights was definitely enough - it's lovely but very small !!
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Fitch
We loved Tallinn but 3 nights was definitely enough - it's lovely but very small !!
If I could wangle it I would try and get in some time in Helsinki during one of the changeovers too (never been to either city)

Thanks for the advice! Squawk - would it be 110 or 100 TP going into next TP year? I thought the extra 10 I'll have going from the outbound for current TP year wouldn't carry over?
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by Fitch
We loved Tallinn but 3 nights was definitely enough - it's lovely but very small !!
You can still do daytrips to other places in Estonia, like Tartu or Pärnu.
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by Fitch
We loved Tallinn but 3 nights was definitely enough - it's lovely but very small !!
Originally Posted by florens
You can still do daytrips to other places in Estonia, like Tartu or Pärnu.
I'd agree with these comments but with a clarification that I probably wouldn't want to do more than 3 nights in TLL in one trip, unless I was a) leaving to go elsewhere for a bit; and/or b) on the very early flight.

Remember that if you arrive in the evening, and leave on the 6am, you've spent 2 "nights" immediately without any days - and likely won't have seen that much.

By contrast if you stop over in HEL and get into TLL early, and leave TLL late (either stopping in HEL overnight, or getting late back to LHR) you can do a lot more.

Personally, I can't spend all day in museums trying to see everything very intensely and have to wander around a bit to break it up - which I really enjoy.

I also found there were plenty of relatively small but interesting museums, churches and back streets to explore. For example, the Museum of Estonian History, the Estonian Architecture Museum, and apparently there is a KGB museum - I've also seen signs for the Estonian Medical Museum (I think?!). People have mentioned the Seaplane Harbour in this thread, which I thought was excellent.

Each may not take that long - anywhere from 30 min to a couple of hours - but when you allow enough time for wandering about, etc you can easily fill several days without rushing like crazy.

I'd also note that - judging by today - the Old Town can be absolutely packed during summer when the cruise ships get in. This not only means that it takes longer to visit places due to crowds, but also is more tiring/stressful (and at least for me, means I want to retreat to a coffee shop or quiet bar for a while)

I've not yet been to anywhere outside of Tallinn itself, that's for next time

Originally Posted by mangochutney
If I could wangle it I would try and get in some time in Helsinki during one of the changeovers too (never been to either city)
Definitely recommend that, partly for the reasons outlined above.

Originally Posted by mangochutney
Thanks for the advice! Squawk - would it be 110 or 100 TP going into next TP year? I thought the extra 10 I'll have going from the outbound for current TP year wouldn't carry over?
You are, of course, absolutely right - sorry, my mistake. You couldn't do the stopover on the way OUT, as you'd then be 10 points short for your old year.

Last edited by squawk; Jun 6, 2017 at 8:30 am Reason: To correct mistake regarding TP earning and stopover
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by squawk
I'd agree with these comments but with a clarification that I probably wouldn't want to do more than 3 nights in TLL in one trip, unless I was a) leaving to go elsewhere for a bit; and/or b) on the very early flight.

Remember that if you arrive in the evening, and leave on the 6am, you've spent 2 "nights" immediately without any days - and likely won't have seen that much.

By contrast if you stop over in HEL and get into TLL early, and leave TLL late (either stopping in HEL overnight, or getting late back to LHR) you can do a lot more.

Personally, I can't spend all day in museums trying to see everything very intensely and have to wander around a bit to break it up - which I really enjoy.

I also found there were plenty of relatively small but interesting museums, churches and back streets to explore. For example, the Museum of Estonian History, the Estonian Architecture Museum, and apparently there is a KGB museum - I've also seen signs for the Estonian Medical Museum (I think?!). People have mentioned the Seaplane Harbour in this thread, which I thought was excellent.

Each may not take that long - anywhere from 30 min to a couple of hours - but when you allow enough time for wandering about, etc you can easily fill several days without rushing like crazy.

I'd also note that - judging by today - the Old Town can be absolutely packed during summer when the cruise ships get in. This not only means that it takes longer to visit places due to crowds, but also is more tiring/stressful (and at least for me, means I want to retreat to a coffee shop or quiet bar for a while)

I've not yet been to anywhere outside of Tallinn itself, that's for next time
All of this is great advice, thank you. The plan is to use it as an actual trip rather than a TP run (I'm a poor postgrad student and will have submitted all but my dissertation the week before) so I'm very much up for an adventure! Also very keen to fit in Helsinki if I can make that work, too - it's just economical


Originally Posted by squawk
You are, of course, absolutely right - sorry, my mistake. You couldn't do the stopover on the way back, as you'd then be 10 points short for your old year.
Now I'm confused - I thought LHR-HEL-TLL in CE gets 100TP each way? So fly out on 7th, 100TP for the old year; back on 9th, 100TP for new year? So if I did the stopover on the way over I'd be short 10, but on the way back I'd be up 10? Or has it changed/have I got it wrong?
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by mangochutney
All of this is great advice, thank you. The plan is to use it as an actual trip rather than a TP run (I'm a poor postgrad student and will have submitted all but my dissertation the week before) so I'm very much up for an adventure! Also very keen to fit in Helsinki if I can make that work, too - it's just economical

Now I'm confused - I thought LHR-HEL-TLL in CE gets 100TP each way? So fly out on 7th, 100TP for the old year; back on 9th, 100TP for new year? So if I did the stopover on the way over I'd be short 10, but on the way back I'd be up 10? Or has it changed/have I got it wrong?
Argh, the gap between my brain and my phone typing was too great. Sorry! You are correct - it is 80 + 20 each way (100).

To clarify, I meant: you couldn't do the stopover on the way out. You need 90; you would get 80 to HEL. So you'd be 10 down on the way out if you stopped over on the way to TLL. By contrast, stopping over on the way back you would indeed be 10 up.

I'll change my initial post to reflect this, in case anyone else sees it in future and gets confused! Done.

Word of warning about HEL - it is really rather expensive compared to TLL. Agree with the logic of treating it as a proper trip to see places, though.

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Old Jun 7, 2017, 12:13 am
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I'm a Bronze member based in HK. I'm 1 0tier points and 2 eligible flights short from Silver. I tried to look up the BA codeshare flight to Ho Chi Ming City, but it says error in getting a price quote on all days. I wonder if this doesn't work, are there any tier point run suggestions to obtain Silver? Thanks in advance!
Welcome to the Board, thomas164! There's a few HK-based members lurking. I switched back to BA last year after reviewing all the major OW programmes and have made BA Gold (OWE) - the same flights would have only got me CX Gold (OWS) - and have been very happy.

BA flights are tough when you're not based in Europe. You generally can't book a BA-codeshare UNLESS you are connecting from BA metal. So HKG-SGN will not be bookable. There are a handful of fifth freedom flights globally that can be booked. SIN-SYD is the one example in Asia, as the BA flight has pick up /drop off rights in SIN. *** EDIT: Just priced this up for June/July. Best is S$711 on matrix for SIN-SYD 10 Jun rn 14 Jun for N class Economy. ***

This thread has some good discussion on how to book.

The best recommendation is to squeeze in a few segments next time your in the UK, to JER/MAN/EDI etc. Sorry I don't have better news!

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Old Jun 7, 2017, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by thomas164
I'm a Bronze member based in HK. I'm 1 0tier points and 2 eligible flights short from Silver. I tried to look up the BA codeshare flight to Ho Chi Ming City, but it says error in getting a price quote on all days. I wonder if this doesn't work, are there any tier point run suggestions to obtain Silver? Thanks in advance!
i believe it is impossible to buy ba codeshare for hkg sgn because ba has no right to fly this route
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 6:21 am
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1st Tier point run screwed up by Qatar issues... so my dilemma is this... I have a positioning flight to get me to HEL for Friday 16th June and a return flight booked from HEL on 13th June.


As opposed to staying in HEL for 5 nights ... where can I travel to within these dates get some points. Any suggestions ?


TIA
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by Steve99w
As opposed to staying in HEL for 5 nights ... where can I travel to within these dates get some points. Any suggestions ?
You could try Malaga (AGP) direct flight with Finnair. 140 tier points each way in business class.
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 6:40 am
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Udate on 28355857 : Big TP run to keep Gold

Originally Posted by Buzz0000
I am trying to hang on to GOLD (exp Jul 8th), but travelled less in this last year due to some health issues. Now looking to rack up c.600 TPs in 4-5 weeks that fit around no weekends, not on days I already have flights and need to depart from London (LHR preferred, LGW at pinch). I hear Athens; Helsinki, Malta get 80TP's for day returns in Club Euro. Any other suggestions (can't really fit in long haul to US/Africa/Asia) I can get the points up or am I fighting a losing battle and should settle for Silver (have 4 qualifying plus 900 TP's so safe) for a year and save my money? thanks
Thanks to Calchas, CX_newbie, Karfka and others, I have been looking at this again.

First, I had a couple of short haul European work related flights in Eco that I paid to upgrade; so now I am at 950. I have a Club class flight to Malta coming up so that will get me another 160 to be at 1,110. I probably have to go back to Malta in a couple of weeks for another 160, so 1,270; plus a trip to Edinburgh for another 80 takes me to 1,350 (all trips from LHR or LGW).

Second, I have a BA flight in Eco to Basel to visit my brother for a weekend. I booked that flight a long time ago using AVIOS. Can I pay to upgrade that Club Europe and if I can, do I get the full or reduced points?

Third, I got BA to extend my points collection year end by the discretionary 2 weeks to 22 July. So I will have 2 more weeks to get the missing 150 TP's (excluding the possible German TPs as above).

So what would people recommend? I looked at the various 80 TP long short-haul runs e.g. HELSINKI / TALLIN but there are few flights available and very expensive at this time of year. Other options like Sofia or Istanbul similarly. There is still some availability for Malta still, which would get me the TPs but would mean 3 (1 day turnaround) trips there in less than a month.

Are there other options that gets me a similar £/TP as Malta (currently 160 for £530 = £0.0302/TP)? This is more or less the same "rate" as doing LHR-EDI for 80 TPs for £260 = £0.0308/TP (although that would mean an additional 2/3 trips, but each EDI trip is doable in a day whereas Malta needs an overnight hotel cost as well).

All / any other suggestions gratefully received.

Many thanks
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 7:57 am
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As a relative newbie to the whole TPR concept, not sure this is too obvious to be of use to this thread?

There are returns in CE LHR-IST-LHR available on lots of dates for £300 or (shouldn't be surprised) £280 if you suffer the inconvenience of adding a hotel.
That's £1.75 per point and makes a nice city break. Booked mine!
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by fruitcage
As a relative newbie to the whole TPR concept, not sure this is too obvious to be of use to this thread?

There are returns in CE LHR-IST-LHR available on lots of dates for £300 or (shouldn't be surprised) £280 if you suffer the inconvenience of adding a hotel.
That's £1.75 per point and makes a nice city break. Booked mine!
Oo that's quite interesting indeed. Two of these would push me to gold. The price/TP seems good and multiple flights a day from LHR which is excellent. Although economy can be had for a measly £99 which seems crazy cheap.

Is Istanbul worth going to for a night by yourself? Quite worried about safety. Is winter a good time?
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by benjai
Oo that's quite interesting indeed. Two of these would push me to gold. The price/TP seems good and multiple flights a day from LHR which is excellent. Although economy can be had for a measly £99 which seems crazy cheap.

Is Istanbul worth going to for a night by yourself? Quite worried about safety. Is winter a good time?
IMHO Istanbul is definitely worth a visit as a tourist (a quick google will help you) and pretty safe overall.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-and-security

Winter can be wet and cool if you're unlucky, but is generally warmer and drier than the UK.
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Old Jun 7, 2017, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by benjai
Is Istanbul worth going to for a night by yourself? Quite worried about safety. Is winter a good time?
Bear in mind that Turkey have announced that they support Qatar and not the other Arab nations, and are likely to put their troops in Qatar soon ( http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/turke...officials.html ). So yeah, probably fine, but I'd be thinking about the timing of this.
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