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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
- from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
- froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
- from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 master thread
#2011
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC gold
Posts: 96
Sadly routeing via Japan is not permitted. The Transfers and the Stopovers categories must be read in conjunction with the routeing table.
You can only fly those two routes specified above, i.e., via HKG (route 1) or via SHA/BJS (route 2).
JAL doesn't offer BA interline carriage at reasonable rates, except on fares between Europe and Japan, so you very rarely see BA itineraries to the far east that permit travel via Japan.
Code:
**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING ROM-CTU/BA EF-10AUG16 DIS-INDEF **ADDON ORG ROM EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0003 **PUBLISHED MIL-CTU EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 0005 /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT 1. ROM-LON-HKG-KA/HX/CX/CA-CTU 2. ROM-LON-SHA/BJS-KA/HU/CZ/CA-CTU .
JAL doesn't offer BA interline carriage at reasonable rates, except on fares between Europe and Japan, so you very rarely see BA itineraries to the far east that permit travel via Japan.
#2012
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Not stupid at all---the only way to learn is by playing with it (and joining in with our discussions of course). Unfortunately the route information is not available unless you have a subscription to KVS or ExpertFlyer.
#2014
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
I use ExpertFlyer because it works through a web site, so I can login to it on my personal Mac, my PC at work, or even on my phone.
KVS is a Windows application, which might be more comfortable if you have a Windows machine you use all the time.
I think the depth of information they supply is broadly comparable. I haven't looked at KVS's prices, but ExpertFlyer you need to pay the top subscription (100 USD per year) for access to the route data.
They both offer free trials so it might be worth trying both.
KVS is a Windows application, which might be more comfortable if you have a Windows machine you use all the time.
I think the depth of information they supply is broadly comparable. I haven't looked at KVS's prices, but ExpertFlyer you need to pay the top subscription (100 USD per year) for access to the route data.
They both offer free trials so it might be worth trying both.
#2015
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 561
I use ExpertFlyer because it works through a web site, so I can login to it on my personal Mac, my PC at work, or even on my phone.
KVS is a Windows application, which might be more comfortable if you have a Windows machine you use all the time.
I think the depth of information they supply is broadly comparable. I haven't looked at KVS's prices, but ExpertFlyer you need to pay the top subscription (100 USD per year) for access to the route data.
They both offer free trials so it might be worth trying both.
KVS is a Windows application, which might be more comfortable if you have a Windows machine you use all the time.
I think the depth of information they supply is broadly comparable. I haven't looked at KVS's prices, but ExpertFlyer you need to pay the top subscription (100 USD per year) for access to the route data.
They both offer free trials so it might be worth trying both.
#2016
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 124
If you then fly 1500TP worth between the 8th of June and end of July 2017, they'll all be credited into your 2017-2018 membership year, and you'll have earned Gold again in your 2017-2018 year. That status will be good for the rest of that collection year (until 8th June 2018), the entire next membership year (until 8th June 2019) and a grace period until the end of the following month (31st July 2019). And you can still use your existing Gold status while you earn the new one.
Obviously if you've got a load of TPs in this year already and just need a few to top up and renew status, this approach isn't helpful as your existing TPs will be reset on the 9th of June and you'll have to start from scratch. If you're starting from not very much, though, and trying to renew from nearly nothing anyway, this makes it often more effective to wait until the start of your next year to do it.
#2017
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 23
Hi All, this might be my first post but I've been a big fan of this forum for a while and think it's about time I got involved.
Heading to HKG from London mid / late August for a couple of weeks and looking for an interesting route to gain as many TP's as possible (and the chance to try out other WW carriers would be a bonus).
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
AdFlyer
Heading to HKG from London mid / late August for a couple of weeks and looking for an interesting route to gain as many TP's as possible (and the chance to try out other WW carriers would be a bonus).
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
AdFlyer
#2018
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,968
Hi All, this might be my first post but I've been a big fan of this forum for a while and think it's about time I got involved.
Heading to HKG from London mid / late August for a couple of weeks and looking for an interesting route to gain as many TP's as possible (and the chance to try out other WW carriers would be a bonus).
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
AdFlyer
Heading to HKG from London mid / late August for a couple of weeks and looking for an interesting route to gain as many TP's as possible (and the chance to try out other WW carriers would be a bonus).
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
AdFlyer
Well I think there are two options for you I can think of:
1. Wait for a QR sale to the Far East either an exEU or exUK - possible this may be to BKK though rather than HKG but obviously you could get from BKK to HKG fairly easily. This would get 560TP as you are doing 140x4.
2. Use the AMS-BKK or Italy-CTU fares in BA J to get to HKG. You can do stopovers in HKG on these fares for only EUR100. Depending on how you route it you don't need to stay in BKK for example and merely pass through. For the CTU you probably would need to stay there and may need to consider having to get a visa as well. In both cases I think the TP haul would be around 440 so not as good as option 1. This would be BA only on the long haul flights.
There are probably lots of other options I can't think of right now but hopefully others will mention them.
#2019
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
NYC-MGA runs available for those in the US - not great TP/£ ratio, but not bad.
Works out at 240 TPs, £498 - approx £2.07/TP
Not great, but good for those needing a little bump
Works out at 240 TPs, £498 - approx £2.07/TP
Not great, but good for those needing a little bump
#2020
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 23
Welcome to FT.
Well I think there are two options for you I can think of:
1. Wait for a QR sale to the Far East either an exEU or exUK - possible this may be to BKK though rather than HKG but obviously you could get from BKK to HKG fairly easily. This would get 560TP as you are doing 140x4.
2. Use the AMS-BKK or Italy-CTU fares in BA J to get to HKG. You can do stopovers in HKG on these fares for only EUR100. Depending on how you route it you don't need to stay in BKK for example and merely pass through. For the CTU you probably would need to stay there and may need to consider having to get a visa as well. In both cases I think the TP haul would be around 440 so not as good as option 1. This would be BA only on the long haul flights.
There are probably lots of other options I can't think of right now but hopefully others will mention them.
Well I think there are two options for you I can think of:
1. Wait for a QR sale to the Far East either an exEU or exUK - possible this may be to BKK though rather than HKG but obviously you could get from BKK to HKG fairly easily. This would get 560TP as you are doing 140x4.
2. Use the AMS-BKK or Italy-CTU fares in BA J to get to HKG. You can do stopovers in HKG on these fares for only EUR100. Depending on how you route it you don't need to stay in BKK for example and merely pass through. For the CTU you probably would need to stay there and may need to consider having to get a visa as well. In both cases I think the TP haul would be around 440 so not as good as option 1. This would be BA only on the long haul flights.
There are probably lots of other options I can't think of right now but hopefully others will mention them.
Nice one, thanks KARFA!
#2021
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Hilton Honors Gold, Marriott Gold, BA Silver, Hertz President's Club
Posts: 486
By no means is this a LHR-HEL-TLL but this PEY fare can be a good vacation/holiday:
SVG-LHR/LGW-HKG-BKK-SIN-BKK-HKG-LGW/LHR-SVG M/E/E/E/E/E/E/M
It works out at around £640-650. (inc Taxes, will change depending on which airports and connection)
Max TP accural: 300, therefore pricing out at approx £2.15/TP
SVG-LHR/LGW-HKG-BKK-SIN-BKK-HKG-LGW/LHR-SVG M/E/E/E/E/E/E/M
It works out at around £640-650. (inc Taxes, will change depending on which airports and connection)
Max TP accural: 300, therefore pricing out at approx £2.15/TP
Definitely a wide range of places. If you are looking for the maximum tier point output, QR's J sale is the place to look: their fares are the best for Asia L/H.
#2022
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 23
@AdFlyer This is bookable (and somewhat tweak-able) for departures late in August. You don't get many tier points however since it's in Premium Economy.
Definitely a wide range of places. If you are looking for the maximum tier point output, QR's J sale is the place to look: their fares are the best for Asia L/H.
Definitely a wide range of places. If you are looking for the maximum tier point output, QR's J sale is the place to look: their fares are the best for Asia L/H.
#2023
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Birmingham, UK
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Silver
Posts: 11
Positioning Flight
Please forgive my inexperience, I have a positioning flight to HEL before I depart on my very 1st tier point run. I land at 11.35pm and then depart @ 7.45am the next morning.
My question is do I need to exit the airside and re-enter for the morning flight ? or can I stay airside if I have checked in already ?
My question is do I need to exit the airside and re-enter for the morning flight ? or can I stay airside if I have checked in already ?
#2024
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,968
Please forgive my inexperience, I have a positioning flight to HEL before I depart on my very 1st tier point run. I land at 11.35pm and then depart @ 7.45am the next morning.
My question is do I need to exit the airside and re-enter for the morning flight ? or can I stay airside if I have checked in already ?
My question is do I need to exit the airside and re-enter for the morning flight ? or can I stay airside if I have checked in already ?