Last edit by: Scotflyer80
To avoid having to search through this multi-page thread, here is the crucial info contributed by several of the BA posters on this board. The full list of MF operated routes is as follows:
Updated 14 JAN 2020
Longhaul
Abu Dhabi (AUH)
Abuja (ABV) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Amman (AMM)
Atlanta (ATL)
Austin (AUS)
Updated 14 JAN 2020
Longhaul
Abu Dhabi (AUH)
Abuja (ABV) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Amman (AMM)
Atlanta (ATL)
Austin (AUS)
Baltimore (BWI) Moves WW > MF 01 APR
Bangkok (BKK) Moves MF > WW 01APR
Beijing (PKX)
Beirut (BEY)
Boston (BOS) - BA238/9 only
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Cairo (CAI)
Cape Town (CPT)
Chicago (ORD) - BA294/5 only until 31MAR. BA296/7 from 01APR
Delhi (DEL) - BA143/142 only until 31MAR. BA257/6 from 01APR
Bangkok (BKK) Moves MF > WW 01APR
Beijing (PKX)
Beirut (BEY)
Boston (BOS) - BA238/9 only
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Cairo (CAI)
Cape Town (CPT)
Chicago (ORD) - BA294/5 only until 31MAR. BA296/7 from 01APR
Delhi (DEL) - BA143/142 only until 31MAR. BA257/6 from 01APR
Denver (DEN) Moves WW > MF MAR only
Doha (DOH) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Dubai (DXB) - BA108/9 only. BA104/5 moves MF > WW 01APR
Durban (DUR)
Grand Cayman (GCM)
Dubai (DXB) - BA108/9 only. BA104/5 moves MF > WW 01APR
Durban (DUR)
Grand Cayman (GCM)
Hong Kong (HKG) - BA31/32 only Moves WW > MF 01APR
Houston (IAH)
Houston (IAH)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Kuwait (KWI) Moves WW > MF 30MAR
Las Vegas (LAS)
Los Angeles (LAX) - BA280/281 only
Miami (MIA) - BA208/9 only. BA206/7 moves MF > WW 01APR
Moscow (DME/SVO)
Muscat (MCT)
Nairobi (NBO) Moves MF > WW 30MAR
Nassau (NAS)
Osaka (KIX)
Phoenix (PHX)
Pittsburgh (PIT)
Las Vegas (LAS)
Los Angeles (LAX) - BA280/281 only
Miami (MIA) - BA208/9 only. BA206/7 moves MF > WW 01APR
Moscow (DME/SVO)
Muscat (MCT)
Nairobi (NBO) Moves MF > WW 30MAR
Nassau (NAS)
Osaka (KIX)
Phoenix (PHX)
Pittsburgh (PIT)
Portland (PDX) New to MF
San Diego (SAN)
San José (SJC)
Santiago (SCL)
Seattle (SEA)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) - BA15/16 only
Sydney (SYD)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Toronto (YYZ)
Vancouver (YVR)
Shorthaul
Aberdeen (ABZ)
Barcelona (BCN)
Bastia (BIA)
Belfast City (BHD)
Bologna (BLQ)
Brussels (BRU)
Bucharest (OTP)
Budapest (BUD)
Chánia (CHQ)
Copenhagen (CPH) Moves EF > MF 30MAR
Corfu (CFU)
San Diego (SAN)
San José (SJC)
Santiago (SCL)
Seattle (SEA)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) - BA15/16 only
Sydney (SYD)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Toronto (YYZ)
Vancouver (YVR)
Shorthaul
Aberdeen (ABZ)
Barcelona (BCN)
Bastia (BIA)
Belfast City (BHD)
Bologna (BLQ)
Brussels (BRU)
Bucharest (OTP)
Budapest (BUD)
Chánia (CHQ)
Copenhagen (CPH) Moves EF > MF 30MAR
Corfu (CFU)
Dalaman (DLM) New to MF
Dublin (DUB)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Faro (FAO)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Gothenburg (GOT)
Hamburg (HAM)
Helsinki (HEL)
Ibiza (IBZ)
Kalamata (KLX)
Kos (KGS)
Kraków (KRK)
Larnaca (LCA)
Las Palmas (LPA)
Leeds\Bradford (LBA)
Lisbon (LIS)
Ljubljana (LJU)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Lyon (LYS)
Madrid (MAD) - BA460/461 only
Manchester (MAN)
Milan-Linate (LIN)
Dublin (DUB)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Faro (FAO)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Gothenburg (GOT)
Hamburg (HAM)
Helsinki (HEL)
Ibiza (IBZ)
Kalamata (KLX)
Kos (KGS)
Kraków (KRK)
Larnaca (LCA)
Las Palmas (LPA)
Leeds\Bradford (LBA)
Lisbon (LIS)
Ljubljana (LJU)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Lyon (LYS)
Madrid (MAD) - BA460/461 only
Manchester (MAN)
Milan-Linate (LIN)
Montpellier (MPL) New to MF
Munich (MUC)
Mykonos (JMK)
Olbia (OLB)
Palma (PMI)
Munich (MUC)
Mykonos (JMK)
Olbia (OLB)
Palma (PMI)
Perugia (PEG)
Podrodica (PGD)
Reykjavík (KEF)
Rhodes (RHO)
St. Petersburg (LED)
Santorini (JTR)
Split (SPU)
Sofia (SOF)
Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN)
Tenerife-South (TFS)
Vienna (VIE)
Zagreb (ZAG)
Key:
New route
Route move to MF
Route move from MF
Reykjavík (KEF)
Rhodes (RHO)
St. Petersburg (LED)
Santorini (JTR)
Split (SPU)
Sofia (SOF)
Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN)
Tenerife-South (TFS)
Vienna (VIE)
Zagreb (ZAG)
Key:
New route
Route move to MF
Route move from MF
Mixed Fleet vs non Mixed Fleet routes
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The CSM on the day, by the way is not usually the crew members on that flight's line manager. We have team flights a couple of times a year when that is more or less the case, but not usually.
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I am afraid that after reading this forum people will start boarding flights anticipating bad and incapable cabin crew when it is a MF route, which is ridiculous and unfair....and this really has to stop. It is like prejudice. Bad service/rude employees happen everywhere, and it is better to raise the issue on the spot or contact customer service rather than scream on forums how the entire workforce is horrible because someone had a bad flight.
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This is a good example why one bad flight cannot describe the entire fleet. The worst (if one can even call it that as it was more of an 'I-don't-really-want-to-be-here-and-would-rather-be-anywhere-else' kind of an attitude) service on the KBP route I got from EF cabin crew in CE, and I had nothing but the best from MF. All my other flights with EF were absolutely brilliant so I won't brand them rude or lazy or disinterested because one Purser or CSD was like that.
I am afraid that after reading this forum people will start boarding flights anticipating bad and incapable cabin crew when it is a MF route, which is ridiculous and unfair....and this really has to stop. It is like prejudice. Bad service/rude employees happen everywhere, and it is better to raise the issue on the spot or contact customer service rather than scream on forums how the entire workforce is horrible because someone had a bad flight.
I am afraid that after reading this forum people will start boarding flights anticipating bad and incapable cabin crew when it is a MF route, which is ridiculous and unfair....and this really has to stop. It is like prejudice. Bad service/rude employees happen everywhere, and it is better to raise the issue on the spot or contact customer service rather than scream on forums how the entire workforce is horrible because someone had a bad flight.
Just one small thing - I thought KBP is an MF route?
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Mixed Fleet vs non Mixed Fleet routes
Flew LHR-CPT full cabin crew were good. Then the return flew First with MF on the BA56 from JNB-LHR (only 4 people in the cabin which was rather unusual for me on this route) but was well looked after and to date one of best experiences.
Personally don't think the whole MF vs WW debate carries much weight anymore. They all strive (bar the outliers) to deliver good service.
Personally don't think the whole MF vs WW debate carries much weight anymore. They all strive (bar the outliers) to deliver good service.
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^ In my view and experience, which "fleet" a crew is part of is an incredibly poor predictor of how competent, pleasant, and enthusiastic they are and I am frankly puzzled by some of the sweeping statements on MF's supposed "amateurism" that so many FTers seem to echo. Time to move to the 21st century perhaps and stop trying to box people into categories which simply have nothing to do with service quality.
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^ In my view and experience, which "fleet" a crew is part of is an incredibly poor predictor of how competent, pleasant, and enthusiastic they are and I am frankly puzzled by some of the sweeping statements on MF's supposed "amateurism" that so many FTers seem to echo. Time to move to the 21st century perhaps and stop trying to box people into categories which simply have nothing to do with service quality.
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Flew LGW-LAS-LHR over christmas.
The outbound (Gatwick fleet I guess) were excellent. Personal hello from the manager - made sure we got our Xmas Turkey despite being at the back of the 2nd cabin, so last with the orders.
Going back to LHR though with Mixed Fleet was dreadful. Upper deck with 2 crew members who could not have been more unhelpful or inattentive. My 79 year old mother wanted a drink but the crew call button was continuously ignored - in the end she went to the Galley and they were both fast asleep. Probably the worst service I've had on any flight.
The outbound (Gatwick fleet I guess) were excellent. Personal hello from the manager - made sure we got our Xmas Turkey despite being at the back of the 2nd cabin, so last with the orders.
Going back to LHR though with Mixed Fleet was dreadful. Upper deck with 2 crew members who could not have been more unhelpful or inattentive. My 79 year old mother wanted a drink but the crew call button was continuously ignored - in the end she went to the Galley and they were both fast asleep. Probably the worst service I've had on any flight.
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Flew LGW-LAS-LHR over christmas.
The outbound (Gatwick fleet I guess) were excellent. Personal hello from the manager - made sure we got our Xmas Turkey despite being at the back of the 2nd cabin, so last with the orders.
Going back to LHR though with Mixed Fleet was dreadful. Upper deck with 2 crew members who could not have been more unhelpful or inattentive. My 79 year old mother wanted a drink but the crew call button was continuously ignored - in the end she went to the Galley and they were both fast asleep. Probably the worst service I've had on any flight.
The outbound (Gatwick fleet I guess) were excellent. Personal hello from the manager - made sure we got our Xmas Turkey despite being at the back of the 2nd cabin, so last with the orders.
Going back to LHR though with Mixed Fleet was dreadful. Upper deck with 2 crew members who could not have been more unhelpful or inattentive. My 79 year old mother wanted a drink but the crew call button was continuously ignored - in the end she went to the Galley and they were both fast asleep. Probably the worst service I've had on any flight.
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You MUST report this.
This does not come down to service any longer, but the safe operation of the aircraft.Crew being asleep, at any other time than on their rest break, is completely inappropriate and wrong.
This does not come down to service any longer, but the safe operation of the aircraft.Crew being asleep, at any other time than on their rest break, is completely inappropriate and wrong.