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Old Jan 6, 2016, 5:05 pm
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To avoid having to search through this multi-page thread, here is the crucial info contributed by several of the BA posters on this board. The full list of MF operated routes is as follows:

Updated 14 JAN 2020

Longhaul
Abu Dhabi (AUH)
Abuja (ABV) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Amman (AMM)
Atlanta (ATL)
Austin (AUS)
Baltimore (BWI) Moves WW > MF 01 APR
Bangkok (BKK) Moves MF > WW 01APR
Beijing (PKX)
Beirut (BEY)
Boston (BOS) - BA238/9 only
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Cairo (CAI)
Cape Town (CPT)
Chicago (ORD) - BA294/5 only until 31MAR. BA296/7 from 01APR
Delhi (DEL) - BA143/142 only until 31MAR. BA257/6 from 01APR
Denver (DEN) Moves WW > MF MAR only
Doha (DOH) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Dubai (DXB) - BA108/9 only. BA104/5 moves MF > WW 01APR
Durban (DUR)
Grand Cayman (GCM)
Hong Kong (HKG) - BA31/32 only Moves WW > MF 01APR
Houston (IAH)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Kuwait (KWI) Moves WW > MF 30MAR
Las Vegas (LAS)
Los Angeles (LAX) - BA280/281 only
Miami (MIA) - BA208/9 only. BA206/7 moves MF > WW 01APR
Moscow (DME/SVO)
Muscat (MCT)
Nairobi (NBO) Moves MF > WW 30MAR
Nassau (NAS)
Osaka (KIX)
Phoenix (PHX)
Pittsburgh (PIT)
Portland (PDX) New to MF
San Diego (SAN)
San José (SJC)
Santiago (SCL)
Seattle (SEA)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) - BA15/16 only
Sydney (SYD)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Toronto (YYZ)
Vancouver (YVR)

Shorthaul
Aberdeen (ABZ)
Barcelona (BCN)
Bastia (BIA)
Belfast City (BHD)
Bologna (BLQ)
Brussels (BRU)
Bucharest (OTP)
Budapest (BUD)
Chánia (CHQ)
Copenhagen (CPH) Moves EF > MF 30MAR
Corfu (CFU)
Dalaman (DLM) New to MF
Dublin (DUB)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Faro (FAO)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Gothenburg (GOT)
Hamburg (HAM)
Helsinki (HEL)
Ibiza (IBZ)
Kalamata (KLX)
Kos (KGS)
Kraków (KRK)
Larnaca (LCA)
Las Palmas (LPA)
Leeds\Bradford (LBA)
Lisbon (LIS)
Ljubljana (LJU)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Lyon (LYS)
Madrid (MAD) - BA460/461 only
Manchester (MAN)
Milan-Linate (LIN)
Montpellier (MPL) New to MF
Munich (MUC)
Mykonos (JMK)
Olbia (OLB)
Palma (PMI)
Perugia (PEG)
Podrodica (PGD)
Reykjavík (KEF)
Rhodes (RHO)
St. Petersburg (LED)
Santorini (JTR)
Split (SPU)
Sofia (SOF)
Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN)
Tenerife-South (TFS)
Vienna (VIE)
Zagreb (ZAG)

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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 am
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I doubt they will bring back anyone that isn’t willing to agree to work with other fleet members from standby.
There are more than enough crew available that will be happy to work together from standby etc. and they are still referring to those coming back as volunteers.
If BA put into action their plan, all crew who stay will be one fleet and working together anyway.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 am
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Well let’s hope that One Fleet doesn’t become a reality then.
If they follow the agreement to share the work out equally between fleets I don’t think there is enough volunteers on EF and I can see non volunteers being brought back.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
Well let’s hope that One Fleet doesn’t become a reality then.
It looks like it already is. I don't see anything that's going to stop it? I'm really glad that Unite and BA are now talking, but I can't see how they'd agree to suddenly drop this given how far they've come.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:12 am
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Well they can roster trips to E/F but top up with M/F crew, so I doubt that will be a problem for them.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:16 am
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As far as I understand the law, they have to consult with the workforce, via the union or direct but once they have consulted, they don’t have to agree with each other. Once BA consider they have consulted, they can just push through their plans, even if the union do not agree.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:23 am
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Originally Posted by Littlegirl
As far as I understand the law, they have to consult with the workforce, via the union or direct but once they have consulted, they don’t have to agree with each other. Once BA consider they have consulted, they can just push through their plans, even if the union do not agree.
Indeed. BA can also argue that they've moved quite substantially by introducing the lead cabin crew position and the salary floor option too. I don't see how SFLHR won't continue.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:33 am
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They have hardly moved so far but they will, I still feel that One Fleet won’t happen.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 6:22 am
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All signs seem to point that BA will soften their stance anything they originally said they won’t but single fleet seems to be an absolutely minimum that it appears BA won’t compromise on (Willie Walsh’s “revenge” for 2010 as some have liked to say!).
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
Well let’s hope that One Fleet doesn’t become a reality then.
If they follow the agreement to share the work out equally between fleets I don’t think there is enough volunteers on EF and I can see non volunteers being brought back.
Leaving aside the changes to pay and T&C, what would be the issues in the two (three ultimately I presume) fleets working together?
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 7:41 am
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No problem it’s just we want/need different things, EF crew want to be home most nights and live in commuter distances, WW crew do not want to come in daily and live all over the world, our scheduling agreements allow this, MF crew joined knowing they have mixed flying.
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Old Jul 21, 2020, 7:43 am
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Fair enough, that makes sense.
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Old Oct 31, 2020, 9:55 pm
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Given it’s now the 1st November, this thread is no longer necessary. It was always an interesting thread and this was something very few travellers knew about.

Good luck to the ‘Heathrow Crew’!
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Old Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
Given it’s now the 1st November, this thread is no longer necessary. It was always an interesting thread and this was something very few travellers knew about.

Good luck to the ‘Heathrow Crew’!
how will DYKWIAs know who to complain about when their boxed lunch in F is served ten minutes after the passenger across the aisle in 2A???
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