Mixed Fleet vs non Mixed Fleet routes

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To avoid having to search through this multi-page thread, here is the crucial info contributed by several of the BA posters on this board. The full list of MF operated routes is as follows:

Updated 11 June 2019

Longhaul
Abu Dhabi (AUH)
Abuja (ABV)
Amman (AMM)
Atlanta (ATL)
Austin (AUS)
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Beirut (BEY)
Boston (BOS) - BA238/239 only
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Cairo (CAI)
Cape Town (CPT)
Chicago (ORD) - BA296/297 only
Dallas (DFW) - June to September
Delhi (DEL) - BA143/142 only
Dubai (DXB) - Except BA108/109
Durban (DUR)
Grand Cayman (GCM)
Houston (IAH)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Las Vegas (LAS)
Los Angeles (LAX) - BA280/281 only
Miami (MIA) - Except BA210/211
Moscow (DME/SVO)
Muscat (MCT)
Nairobi (NBO)
Nassau (NAS)
Osaka (KIX)
Phoenix (PHX)
Pittsburgh (PIT)
San Diego (SAN)
San José (SJC)
Santiago (SCL)
Seattle (SEA)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) - BA15/16 only
Sydney (SYD)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Toronto (YYZ)
Vancouver (YVR)

Shorthaul
Aberdeen (ABZ)
Barcelona (BCN)
Bastia (BIA)
Belfast City (BHD)
Bologna (BLQ)
Brussels (BRU)
Bucharest (OTP)
Budapest (BUD)
Chánia (CHQ)
Copenhagen (CPH)
Corfu (CFU)
Dublin (DUB)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Faro (FAO)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Gothenburg (GOT)
Hamburg (HAM)
Helsinki (HEL)
Ibiza (IBZ)
Kalamata (KLX)
Kos (KGS)
Kraków (KRK)
Larnaca (LCA)
Las Palmas (LPA)
Leeds\Bradford (LBA)
Lisbon (LIS)
Ljubljana (LJU)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Lyon (LYS)
Madrid (MAD) - BA460/461 only
Manchester (MAN)
Milan-Linate (LIN)
Munich (MUC)
Mykonos (JMK)
Olbia (OLB)
Palma (PMI)
Reykjavík (KEF)
Rhodes (RHO)
St. Petersburg (LED)
Santorini (JTR)
Split (SPU)
Sofia (SOF)
Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN)
Tenerife-South (TFS)
Vienna (VIE)
Zagreb (ZAG)

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Old Aug 6, 14, 10:02 am
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Mixed Fleet vs non Mixed Fleet routes

Hi

Is there a list of what long haul routes are mixed fleet and which are "non mixed fleet" (not sure what the term is)?

I'm just curious after talking to non mixed fleet crew recently on a Calgary flight, and she said she wasn't going to Cape Town any more because this is now mixed fleet only.

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Old Aug 6, 14, 10:11 am
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It seems that the number of MF routes are increasing quite rapidly. I believe it is close to 50% of the Euro routes now.
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Old Aug 6, 14, 10:16 am
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It changes quite frequently. Long haul off the too of my head....:

Abu Dhabi and Muscat
Singapore and Sydney (NOT BA11 terminating in Singapore).
Cape Town
Las Vegas
Boston
Vancouver
Los Angeles
Rio de Janeiro
Lagos
Tokyo-Haneda
Seoul
Chengdu


Probably more!

Maybe Chicago and Denver. Is Austin MF?

Correct term for non Mixed Fleet longhaul, heathrow-based crew is"Worldwide fleet" ("WW") crew.
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Crew based out of Gatwick are mixed fleet from memory?
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Old Aug 6, 14, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by williemaykit View Post
Crew based out of Gatwick are mixed fleet from memory?
Similar idea, different conditions. They're called SFLGW (single fleet I think) as they all were moved onto new conditions a long time before MF appeared at LHR.
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Old Aug 6, 14, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by williemaykit View Post
Crew based out of Gatwick are mixed fleet from memory?
"Single fleet" at Gatwick. They fly long and short haul but have Pursers (qualified on A320 series, 737 and 777) and "Cabin Managers" (CSD equivalent, silver tie) on 737 and 777. Purser can be in charge crew on 737 or 320 series, but manages a cabin (as per Customer Service Leaders for WW or Future Talent CSMs on MF). Cabin Managers are the boss on 777s and can be rostered as in charge on 737 but not A320 series.

I think they do have some MF Gatwick crew now, no? Or is it that some LHR based MF crew have been operating out of Gatwick? They're qualified on 777 and A320 but not 737.
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MF crew, which are LHR based sometimes operate LGW flights.
You never get a mix of fleets on the same flight.
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Originally Posted by williemaykit View Post
Crew based out of Gatwick are mixed fleet from memory?
no.

there's EuroFleet, WorldWide and MF ex LHR.

Believe LGW crew is "mixed" in that they do l/h, s/h and a select few also do CWLCY but they are not "mixed fleet".

Then there's Citiflyer fleet for LCY flights (though some based in EDI and GLA).
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Originally Posted by IAMORGAN View Post
It changes quite frequently. Long haul off the too of my head....:

Abu Dhabi and Muscat
Singapore and Sydney (NOT BA11 terminating in Singapore).
Cape Town
Las Vegas
Boston
Vancouver
Los Angeles
Rio de Janeiro
Lagos
Tokyo-Haneda
Seoul
Chengdu


Probably more!

Maybe Chicago and Denver. Is Austin MF?

Correct term for non Mixed Fleet longhaul, heathrow-based crew is"Worldwide fleet" ("WW") crew.
Chicago is mixed fleet again. Was surprised yesterday to see hats on my flight from ORD. One of the cabin crew stated that mixed fleet had returned to ORDlast month (or thereabouts).
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What is the impact of having a mixed fleet crew or not on the passenger service?
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Old Aug 6, 14, 12:28 pm
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What is the impact of having a mixed fleet crew or not on the passenger service?
Most passengers will not notice any difference.
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What is the impact of having a mixed fleet crew or not on the passenger service?
I've had WW crews from "CBA" to "excellent"
I've had EF crews from "CBA" to "good"
I've had MF crews from "OK" to "good"

Most disappointing crew ever was WW. Most impressive crew ever was also WW.
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Am puzzled. What's the interest in knowing which crew is flying where then?
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Originally Posted by IAMORGAN View Post
It changes quite frequently. Long haul off the too of my head....:

Abu Dhabi and Muscat
Singapore and Sydney (NOT BA11 terminating in Singapore).
Cape Town
Las Vegas
Boston
Vancouver
Los Angeles
Rio de Janeiro
Lagos
Tokyo-Haneda
Seoul
Chengdu


Probably more!

Maybe Chicago and Denver. Is Austin MF?

Correct term for non Mixed Fleet longhaul, heathrow-based crew is"Worldwide fleet" ("WW") crew.
Chengdu and Austin are on the 787 which I believe the new crew are not yet working on?
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