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Jun 12, 2018, 6:54 am
#3151
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Yes they could see that far back but they wouldn’t know if they were on your flight other than checking their past roster or just by remembering you.
Jun 12, 2018, 7:15 am
#3152
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Thanks CIHY
I think it was a mix of the ipad / manifest info and his memory.
I think it was a mix of the ipad / manifest info and his memory.
Jun 12, 2018, 10:18 am
#3153
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Yes, although different GDSs display etkts differently; whereas Amadeus and Sabre clearly show an empty coupon in the middle, Apollo only skips the numbering and continues on, which can get confusing, especially when the surface isn't between co-terminals.
Also, while the meaning is the same, Amadeus would number those coupons as 1234567, whereas Apollo displays 124123.
An airline in Amadeus looking at an Apollo ticket will see it in the Amadeus format; Amadeus translates it. The TA who issued it will only ever see the Apollo format, and TAs can usually never see any airline issued etkts, they don't have system permissions, even if the TA issued the original etkt.
(The last empty coupon isn't numbered or displayed by any system AFAIK)
Also, while the meaning is the same, Amadeus would number those coupons as 1234567, whereas Apollo displays 124123.
An airline in Amadeus looking at an Apollo ticket will see it in the Amadeus format; Amadeus translates it. The TA who issued it will only ever see the Apollo format, and TAs can usually never see any airline issued etkts, they don't have system permissions, even if the TA issued the original etkt.
(The last empty coupon isn't numbered or displayed by any system AFAIK)
Jun 14, 2018, 6:06 am
#3154
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One for the flight deck denizens....
What is the SOP in terms of when to turn on / off the transponder at start / end of a sector. Seemingly it isn't active when parked at stand or gate as otherwise a look at LHR on FR24 would show far more aircraft....
What is the SOP in terms of when to turn on / off the transponder at start / end of a sector. Seemingly it isn't active when parked at stand or gate as otherwise a look at LHR on FR24 would show far more aircraft....
Jun 14, 2018, 11:34 pm
#3155
Join Date: Jan 2010
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"Heathrow Airport is equipped with an advanced surface movement radar utilising Mode-S.
1 Aircraft operators intending to use London Heathrow Airport should ensure that Mode S transponders are able to operate when the aircraft is on the ground
2 Flight crew should:
Select XPNDR or the equivalent according to specific installation, AUTO if available, not OFF or STDBY, and the assigned Mode A code.
From the request for push back or taxi whichever is earlier;
After landing, continuously until the aircraft is fully parked on stand
After parking the Mode A code 2000 must be set before selecting OFF or STDBY.
3 Flight crew of aircraft equipped with Mode S having an aircraft identification feature should also set the aircraft identification. This setting is the aircraft identification specified in Item 7 of the ICAO ATC Flight Plan. The aircraft identification should be entered from the request for push back or taxi, whichever is earlier, through the FMS or the Transponder Control Panel."
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Jun 15, 2018, 12:56 am
#3156
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AUTO or TXPDR in the before start checks, with the assisigned SQUAWK set, TA/RA taxiing out, confirmed in the Before Take Off Checks. Back to AUTO or TXPDR in the After Landing Checks and STBY with 2000 set in the Parking Checks. AUTO or TXPDR because we have at least two sets of Transponders with slightly different settings.
Last edited by Waterhorse; Jun 15, 2018 at 1:15 am
Jun 15, 2018, 1:18 am
#3157
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Flight Crew don’t tend to get golden tickets as our interactions with the public are generally distant. If our flight and “pilots” or “flight crew” or “Capt x” is mentioned in a tweet to BA it tends to get noticed and we get an e-mail from one of the management saying “well done” or similar.
Jun 15, 2018, 1:23 am
#3158
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Ooh! An email!
Jun 15, 2018, 2:45 am
#3159
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Following on from the FR24 question, do BA actually use that for flight operations? It does seem a bit unreliable for it but I know CX do.
Jun 15, 2018, 3:43 am
#3160
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I have no idea whether it would s used at an Ops level. Crews use it when on the ground trying to find their next aircraft if it is running late etc.
Jun 15, 2018, 4:59 am
#3161
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Why are Baggage/Cargo trailers limited to 3 at Heathrow?
Often see more at other airports.
Often see more at other airports.
Jun 15, 2018, 5:07 am
#3162
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But I know some ops staff just use FR24, and even bring in their personal iPads to track aircraft on them.
Jun 15, 2018, 5:14 am
#3163
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By no means an authoritative or definitive answer, but baggage and cargo are two different operations using vastly different vehicles and two different types of trailer. As far as BA goes, baggage use three, cargo use two. Three has been tried in the past for cargo but isn't practical. One reason was the length causes major 'cut in' on corners which isn't healthy for airport infrastructure. Not too sure about baggage but I'd imagine those little tugs that do about 15mph downhill empty would probably move too slowly with more than three full AKEs.
Jun 19, 2018, 11:06 pm
#3164
Join Date: Apr 2015
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To make the threat of random alcohol testing for pilots credible, I would imagine testing would need to occur in outstations not just LON. Does BA send staff from LON to do random alcohol testing in outstations or do they use local personnel?
Jun 20, 2018, 6:14 am
#3165
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Lots of delays into LGW today (not just BA). The GF is on a BA flight where a 45 to 60 minute delay was announced after everyone had boarded and due to "ATC restrictions". As quite a few flights into LGW around lunchtime are delayed is there a wider problem today with the airport or UK airspace?