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#3241
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: U.K.
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond
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I sit in the bottom half of the 787 flight deck seniority list and I average 4-5 trips a month. I would say this is fairly standard. The trips usually range between 3 and 4 days work. There are longer trips available to the likes of the Seychelles and Santiago, Chile (on the 787) and when you take one of these it'll bring down the number of trips you do that month. The rosters are built to achieve a monthly 'CAP' which is basically an established figure of how many hours you're expected to be rostered. There are also absolute limits on both the number of duty and flying hours that can done in specific periods.
Last edited by Boeing77W; Aug 7, 2018 at 9:24 am Reason: Clarity
#3242
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 587
Have BA CC been retrained or received a bulletin lately regarding alcohol consumption on board? The last few flights I've taken, I've noticed a difference in CC attitude when giving out alcohol over and above the drinks run trolley (even being refused a second drink from the trolley on its first pass).
CC have been seen to take note of seat numbers of people asking for more alcohol and referring to this when asking again, so whats going on?
I'm not talking about people being drunk or disorderly, simply those asking for more alcohol than is freely given out
CC have been seen to take note of seat numbers of people asking for more alcohol and referring to this when asking again, so whats going on?
I'm not talking about people being drunk or disorderly, simply those asking for more alcohol than is freely given out
However, it has been known on some routes (especially CPT and JNB) that the bars are loaded with a fairly limited selection compared to what we’d usually expect. Some crew may therefore choose to give only one G&T on the first pass to ensure everyone gets their first choice. If there’s some spare they’ll come back. This isn’t normal practice though as usually we have full bars from all stations. To reiterate there’s been no change in how we give out alcohol, or who we give alcohol to.
#3243
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,094
Have BA CC been retrained or received a bulletin lately regarding alcohol consumption on board? The last few flights I've taken, I've noticed a difference in CC attitude when giving out alcohol over and above the drinks run trolley (even being refused a second drink from the trolley on its first pass).
CC have been seen to take note of seat numbers of people asking for more alcohol and referring to this when asking again, so whats going on?
I'm not talking about people being drunk or disorderly, simply those asking for more alcohol than is freely given out
CC have been seen to take note of seat numbers of people asking for more alcohol and referring to this when asking again, so whats going on?
I'm not talking about people being drunk or disorderly, simply those asking for more alcohol than is freely given out
The CC on my last few legs this month have been forcing the stuff down my neck....
#3244
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 171
#3245
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Hants
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 218
LON-SZG
Is there a reason for the lack of flights to Salzburg between 24th April - 29th May? A seasonal thing, a glitch in the matrix, or a gap that'll get filled eventually?
Thanks.
Is there a reason for the lack of flights to Salzburg between 24th April - 29th May? A seasonal thing, a glitch in the matrix, or a gap that'll get filled eventually?
Thanks.
#3246
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver (for now)
Posts: 1,000
I sit in the bottom half of the 787 flight deck seniority list and I average 4-5 trips a month. I would say this is fairly standard. The trips usually range between 3 and 4 days work. There are longer trips available to the likes of the Seychelles and Santiago, Chile (on the 787) and when you take one of these it'll bring down the number of trips you do that month. The rosters are built to achieve a monthly 'CAP' which is basically an established figure of how many hours you're expected to be rostered. There are also absolute limits on both the number of duty and flying hours that can done in specific periods.
#3247
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Programs: Mucci des Hommes Magiques et Magnifiques
Posts: 19,107
Cabin crew do not use seniority for bidding for trips, just for choosing working positions.
#3248
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: U.K.
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 277
Keeping it simple...prior to the monthly bid opening the company create ‘trip lines’ which are basically set rosters for the month. During bidding you find the lines/rosters that match your preferences, be it certain days off/destinations/trip length etc. and put them into your bid in order of preference. The more senior you are the better your chances of getting what you want. If you don’t achieve a trip line you get allocated a ‘blind line’ and you’ve no idea what you’ll have until your roster is published. There are also ‘reserve lines’ thrown in which are dealt with slightly differently. It’s all due to change to a new system soon which again is seniority based but no one really knows how it’ll pan out.
#3249
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: GLA
Programs: Silver, JJC (circa 1980)
Posts: 328
Happy and excited to report that my daughter was successful at her recent Waterside Assessment day and will be joining Gatwick MF within the next couple of months!(training dates still to be confirmed)
Thanks so much to everyone who helped with advice. I hope that Anna will repay all of your kindness by doing a great job and contributing here when she can!
Thanks so much to everyone who helped with advice. I hope that Anna will repay all of your kindness by doing a great job and contributing here when she can!
#3250
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Blue, IC Spire Ambassador
Posts: 5,229
Reading through air safety bulletins from last month, as you do, and I came across this one involving a BA 787-9. The interesting things for me were that:-
— pre recorded announcement advising customers to don oxygen masks was inaudible due to some kind of software issue. I don’t fully follow but it reads as though the IFE system which delivers this announcement couldn’t deliver audio at the operator / manufacturer specified volume so delivered it at an inaudible level. Many customers were unaware and apparently some Cabin Crew thought turbulence had caused masks to drop. Can anyone clarify? Has the PA now been fixed?
- Privacy screens on 787s don’t retract in a depressurisation - the safety card indicated it would and crew differences training didn’t reflect this...I guess this has now been resolved?
- Because, basically, the first officer had contacted the first galley to advise the crew to stow equipment and sit down in proximity of portable oxygen, when the situation developed (immediately after that conversation) this seemed to have contributed to confusion. Cabin crew did not immediately don oxygen and tell passengers to do likewise.
I’d be interested to know how learning from this situation has been trained for, as in different circumstances, failure to react promptly to a depressurisation event could have had adverse consequences (I appreciate here cabin alt didn’t go much above 10,000 feet).
Whilst I can totally see why this happened, hopefully this learning is shared with flight and cabin crew so they can be aware of it day to day, rather than just a report being published and nothing being done?
— pre recorded announcement advising customers to don oxygen masks was inaudible due to some kind of software issue. I don’t fully follow but it reads as though the IFE system which delivers this announcement couldn’t deliver audio at the operator / manufacturer specified volume so delivered it at an inaudible level. Many customers were unaware and apparently some Cabin Crew thought turbulence had caused masks to drop. Can anyone clarify? Has the PA now been fixed?
- Privacy screens on 787s don’t retract in a depressurisation - the safety card indicated it would and crew differences training didn’t reflect this...I guess this has now been resolved?
- Because, basically, the first officer had contacted the first galley to advise the crew to stow equipment and sit down in proximity of portable oxygen, when the situation developed (immediately after that conversation) this seemed to have contributed to confusion. Cabin crew did not immediately don oxygen and tell passengers to do likewise.
I’d be interested to know how learning from this situation has been trained for, as in different circumstances, failure to react promptly to a depressurisation event could have had adverse consequences (I appreciate here cabin alt didn’t go much above 10,000 feet).
Whilst I can totally see why this happened, hopefully this learning is shared with flight and cabin crew so they can be aware of it day to day, rather than just a report being published and nothing being done?
#3251
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,065
A safety notice with actions in a repetition of this event has already been issued. BA can be a little leaden footed at times but generally not with safety.
#3252
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,266
Had a lovely CSM out of and into LGW yesterday and we got chatting in the galley while waiting for an ATC slot clearance on the return leg and she provided some interesting Galley FM snippets, just wondering if others had heard these:
1) Revenue Mgt looked long and hard at the LGW-OAK service continuing onto HNL but in the end the numbers didn’t stack up.
2) BKK was reviewed to possibly move down to LGW from LHR but the rest period down route wasn’t long enough so it remained at LHR but changed to MF
3) Some Monarch slots are being looked at in relation to conversion to long-haul with some extra B777’s coming over from LHR (don’t think they can spare the aircraft at present though) and some LHR leisure routes are being reviewed with an eye on moving them down to LGW.
4) Cancun is being carefully monitored due to increasing violence / drug warfare creeping towards the tourist spots. VS apparently pulled the route on safety concerns rather than revenue.
5) Rumours that once the A350’s start arriving we may see a B77W or two at LGW (don’t think that will happen myself)
6) New CW Seat will basically be a copy of the current IB business class seat.
As always, some of the above could be discounted as just Galley FM, but always interesting to hear the rumours doing the rounds.
Pilot37
1) Revenue Mgt looked long and hard at the LGW-OAK service continuing onto HNL but in the end the numbers didn’t stack up.
2) BKK was reviewed to possibly move down to LGW from LHR but the rest period down route wasn’t long enough so it remained at LHR but changed to MF
3) Some Monarch slots are being looked at in relation to conversion to long-haul with some extra B777’s coming over from LHR (don’t think they can spare the aircraft at present though) and some LHR leisure routes are being reviewed with an eye on moving them down to LGW.
4) Cancun is being carefully monitored due to increasing violence / drug warfare creeping towards the tourist spots. VS apparently pulled the route on safety concerns rather than revenue.
5) Rumours that once the A350’s start arriving we may see a B77W or two at LGW (don’t think that will happen myself)
6) New CW Seat will basically be a copy of the current IB business class seat.
As always, some of the above could be discounted as just Galley FM, but always interesting to hear the rumours doing the rounds.
Pilot37
Last edited by Pilot37; Aug 18, 2018 at 3:22 am
#3253
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Location: JER
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From the IB website ...
Bring it on!!
- Personal spaces within hands reach.
- Cocktail table and a large revolving table so you can get up at any time.
#3254
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Flatland
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold 1MM, BA Gold, UA Peon
Posts: 6,112
I think it would be better to continue discussion of the new CW seat over on the thread for that, rather than fill this thread up with another iteration of love/hate Club World seating (unless a staffer wishes to comment).
#3255
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