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Old Oct 23, 2010, 3:10 pm
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I have checked on ANA, but all I got is 'not applicable'

KHV-ICN 25DEC10

I looked up blackout dates for OZ and it says 27-31DEC, so 25th should be ok.

If anybody could check on EF, I'd greatly appreciate that - C preferred, but Y is ok too.
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Old Oct 23, 2010, 3:22 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
KHV  Khabarovsk Novyy RU [UHHH]
ICN  Seoul Incheon Intl KR [RKSI]
SAT  25 Dec 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
OZ         571     KHV   15:30     ICN   17:35     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
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Old Oct 23, 2010, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Tiger_lily
[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Platinum - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
KHV  Khabarovsk Novyy RU [UHHH]
ICN  Seoul Incheon Intl KR [RKSI]
SAT  25 Dec 2010 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
OZ         571     KHV   15:30     ICN   17:35     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS-


Thank you!
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Old Oct 23, 2010, 6:52 pm
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Could someone tell me how much MCO-EWR should cost me in either C or Y. Hoping to get up on November 6th.

Ta very much!
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by lallyr
EF is more reliable especially for LX.
Hmmm, it's not looking too promising. Not a terribly broad and scientifc sample, but I checked ZRHGRU with Pune on a couple of days:

08JUN:
EF shows O2 and I9
ANA shows F0 and J>=4
ICC see no F, and C available
AC/CO via awardnexus show nothing direct

10JUN:
EF: O2, I0
ANA: nothing
ICC: nothing

J availability EF vs ANA seems to more or less tie up, but F is much different. Annoying, as there is loads of F availability on EF, and absolutely none on ANA.
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by raikje
J availability EF vs ANA seems to more or less tie up, but F is much different. Annoying, as there is loads of F availability on EF, and absolutely none on ANA.
Could it be that EF is seeing LX availability for M&M members, which might not be there for other *A FFPs?
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by raikje
10JUN:
EF: O2, I0
ANA: nothing
ICC: nothing
These 'mysterious' F seats are not even available to M&M's own members:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.9902/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  343  0   FS-  CS-  YS-
[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.9902/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M/All]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  343      FS- CS- YS+ YR-
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Could it be that EF is seeing LX availability for M&M members, which might not be there for other *A FFPs?
Yes that is correct. LX routinely has more availability for it's own M&M members then for *A partner awards. We get the LX award availability by directly connecting to the LX host for several years.

In fact, we just called LX directly and confirmed the 2 First class awards for LX 92 on 10 Jun.

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Old Oct 25, 2010, 1:29 pm
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I wondered if is was to do with M&M-only availability, but that's a bit odd that it doesn't show in KVS. I've never used KVS for M&M award searching though, so I don't know how it does it.

Either way, I'll stick to ANA! Oh well, back to the drawing board...
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
These 'mysterious' F seats are not even available to M&M's own members
Not visible to KVS, perhaps, but they were and still are shown as available if I search on www.miles-and-more.com.
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 2:41 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M/All]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  340      FS+
It is visible to KVS
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by G_G
It is visible to KVS
Curious. Not for KVS (see post 1432) and not for me a few seconds ago:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M/Bus/First]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  340      FS- CS- YS+ YR-
Could just be a case of rapidly fluctuating availability, of course.
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by G_G
[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M/All]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  340      FS+
It is visible to KVS
Originally Posted by IMH
Curious. Not for KVS (see post 1432) and not for me a few seconds ago:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M/Bus/First]
Code:
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
FRI  10 Jun 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------
LX         92      ZRH   22:40     GRU   05:45 +1  340      FS- CS- YS+ YR-
Could just be a case of rapidly fluctuating availability, of course.
Actually, it looks like LX is 'playing' with availability, based on the POS/M&M account country (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors).

G_G & IMH: Where are your respective M&M accounts based?
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Old Oct 25, 2010, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Actually, it looks like LX is 'playing' with availability, based on the POS/M&M account country (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors).

G_G & IMH: Where are your respective M&M accounts based?
This looks like the explanation.

My M&M account is registered to my US address, but when I found availability at miles-and-more.com earlier I had logged in under Germany/German.

Checking again, without clearing any cookies: if I log in as USA/English I cannot see availability. A minute later, logged back in as Germany/German, I can... No idea, of course, what would happen if I actually wanted to book this.
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Old Oct 26, 2010, 3:14 am
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My M&M account is registered to my Tunisian address
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