Redemption Help: DC redemption : need help checking availability for....
Sep 6, 2009 | 12:06 pm
#511
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Or you can fly from JFK on 4OCT:
Considering SQ is available as well, that's a no brainer IMHO
Code:
** BMI - AD ** MAN MANCHESTER.GB 28 SU 04OCT 0000
5 LH 411 I3 /JFK 1 MUC 2 1735 0805+1E0/333
CL*LH4860 I3 /MUC 2 MAN 1 0915+1 1035+1E0/AR8 12:00
5 SQ 025 I2 /JFK 4 FRA 1 2115 1115+1E0.744
LH4856 I7 /FRA 1 MAN 1 1650+1 1730+1E0/319 15:15
6 *LX 019 I9 /EWR B ZRH 2120 1130+1E0/73H
LX 394 I9 /ZRH MAN 1 1210+1 1305+1E0/319 10:45
Hi. Is all this information from 1 web site, which you have copied/pasted or is it from multi sites. I have EF, seat counter as well as ANA but dont seem to get the detailed info listed like this.
regards cal
Sep 6, 2009 | 1:58 pm
#512
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern Ireland (in spirit), but much more likely GB or Europe.
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I believe this is the output from KVS. However the availability I can see differs from what denCSA has posted, I cannot see either SQ25 or LH411 as available with 2 seats in I-class on 4th October using ANA which seems unusual.
Chase, when booking a one-way journey we have found in practice that mileage is determined by the length of the longest sector which in your case is the transatlantic leg. Therefore it is possible to fly First on LAX-JFK but still be charged Business class mileage overall.
Chase, when booking a one-way journey we have found in practice that mileage is determined by the length of the longest sector which in your case is the transatlantic leg. Therefore it is possible to fly First on LAX-JFK but still be charged Business class mileage overall.
Sep 6, 2009 | 4:04 pm
#514
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This is the output directly from BD's reservation system, requesting StarNet availability.
Last edited by denCSA; Sep 6, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Sep 6, 2009 | 4:11 pm
#515
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Code:
** BMI - AD ** ZRH ZURICH.CH 203 MO 29MAR 0000 1 SK 601 I9 /CPH 3 ZRH 0820 1005 E0/319 1:45 2 LX1267 I9 /CPH 2 ZRH 0940 1135 E0/321 1:55 3 SK 603 I9 /CPH 3 ZRH 1125 1310 E0/M80 1:45 4 LX1271 I9 /CPH 2 ZRH 1440 1630 E0/320 1:50 5 SK 609 I9 /CPH 3 ZRH 1740 1925 E0/M80 1:45 6 LX1273 I9 /CPH 2 ZRH 2000 2145 E0/321 1:45 ** BMI - AD ** HKG HONG KONG.HK 203 MO 29MAR 0000 1 LX 138 O1 I9 X9 /ZRH HKG 1 2245 1640+1E0/343 11:55
Code:
** BMI - AD ** ZRH ZURICH.CH 215 SA 10APR 0000 1 LX 139 O1 I0 X9 /HKG 1 ZRH 2315 0610+1E0/343 12:55 ** BMI - AD ** ZRH ZURICH.CH 216 SU 11APR 0000 1 LX 139 O2 I0 X9 /HKG 1 ZRH 2315 0610+1E0/343 12:55 ** BMI - AD ** ZRH ZURICH.CH 217 MO 12APR 0000 1 LX 139 O2 I7 X9 /HKG 1 ZRH 2315 0610+1E0/343 12:55 ** BMI - AD ** CPH COPENHAGEN.DK 216 SU 11APR 0000 1 LX1266 I9 /ZRH CPH 3 0710 0855 E0/321 1:45 2 SK 602 I4 /ZRH CPH 3 1045 1230 E0/CR9 1:45 3 LX1270 I9 /ZRH CPH 3 1220 1405 E0/320 1:45 4 SK 604 I4 /ZRH CPH 3 1435 1620 E0/CR9 1:45 5 LX1272 I9 /ZRH CPH 3 1730 1920 E0/321 1:50 6 SK 610 I9 /ZRH CPH 3 2010 2200 E0/CR9 1:50
Sep 6, 2009 | 7:24 pm
#516
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[KVS Availability Tool 5.0.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
Code:
JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] SUN 04 Oct 2009 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- LH 401 JFK 16:00 FRA 05:35 +1 744 FS+ CS- YS+ LH 403 EWR 17:50 FRA 07:25 +1 744 FS+ CS- YS+ SQ 25 JFK 21:15 FRA 11:15 +1 744 FS- CS- YS+ LH 405 JFK 21:35 FRA 11:35 +1 744 FS+ CS- YS+
Sep 7, 2009 | 2:55 am
#517
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Posts: 544
Lon - syd 2010
Hi All
Looking for a little help with suggestions for the following.
Looking to fly LON - SYD next year. Leaving early to mid July (not too early say from 7 July onwards) for 4 weeks (or a few days more).
3 adults, biz class (^ miles and cash) ideally with a stopover each way.
In an "ideal" World we would stop somewhere like Singapore on the way out and somewhere else (not Hong Kong) on the way back but I accept that with redemptions you cannot always get what you want
so if it was Seoul both ways it wouldn't be a major problem!
TIA for any suggestions.
Looking for a little help with suggestions for the following.
Looking to fly LON - SYD next year. Leaving early to mid July (not too early say from 7 July onwards) for 4 weeks (or a few days more).
3 adults, biz class (^ miles and cash) ideally with a stopover each way.
In an "ideal" World we would stop somewhere like Singapore on the way out and somewhere else (not Hong Kong) on the way back but I accept that with redemptions you cannot always get what you want
so if it was Seoul both ways it wouldn't be a major problem!TIA for any suggestions.
Last edited by TheEngineer; Sep 7, 2009 at 3:00 am
Sep 7, 2009 | 3:22 am
#518
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Manchester
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Thanks BHDBOY and denCSA. Gone for the early UA flight on the 2nd and the SQ flight back from JFK on the 4th, although from FRA they have us going via LHR, which actually gets us back to MAN an hour earlier, and saves us hanging around FRA for a few hours.
Thanks again
Mike
Thanks again
Mike
Sep 7, 2009 | 3:36 am
#519
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Enjoy your trip chase. You've given us something interesting to discuss as you have got a seat on the SQ flight which none of us (apart from denCSA) could see using the conventional ANA/KVS system. Given that there were other flights on this day which were also apparently available on denCSA's system but not on ANA/KVS perhaps this is some evidence for some limited StarNet blocking on ANA's part which obviously diminishes the value of the tool.
Sep 7, 2009 | 3:54 am
#520
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We have seen, on and off, some +/- variation between availability to BD and what was visible on ANA over the years - plenty of evidence on the board, eve with poor staff and systemic computer glitches.
Is there any suggestion that we are witnessing a change here?
Is there any suggestion that we are witnessing a change here?
Sep 7, 2009 | 4:05 am
#521
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Nothing significant yet, however the discrepancy with both LH411 and SQ25 on the same day is perhaps unusual, especially to someone like myself who has always found ANA 100% accurate.
Sep 7, 2009 | 5:06 am
#522
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Bucks and London
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A quick sanity check and a request for a bit of advice
Dear Esteemed FTers
May I just check the following please?
LX - First redemption, 2.5 time miles (or miles and cash) but does not attract the 10k LH uplift per sector
LX - 340 days out redemption opens (as per a post on this forum I think pointing to awardgrabber) - or now that they are under LH's wing - does that mean 360 days open up?
LX via ZRH to JNB is the aim for 2010 August, is it best to use ExpertFlyer or M&M to check availability?
Is it best to check LHR-ZRH, then ZRH-JNB on EF or the whole thing?
Thanks all, once again, I am attempting to get us to JNB, which some of you may remember was how I got involved with FT last year!
I would appreciate your guidance.
Best wishes.
20-Horse
May I just check the following please?
LX - First redemption, 2.5 time miles (or miles and cash) but does not attract the 10k LH uplift per sector
LX - 340 days out redemption opens (as per a post on this forum I think pointing to awardgrabber) - or now that they are under LH's wing - does that mean 360 days open up?
LX via ZRH to JNB is the aim for 2010 August, is it best to use ExpertFlyer or M&M to check availability?
Is it best to check LHR-ZRH, then ZRH-JNB on EF or the whole thing?
Thanks all, once again, I am attempting to get us to JNB, which some of you may remember was how I got involved with FT last year!
I would appreciate your guidance.
Best wishes.
20-Horse
Sep 7, 2009 | 7:27 am
#523
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 410
Hi,
this may be a stupid question, but I'd rather ask here than talk to the ICC: Am I correct in assuming that I can book an LH flight (nothing special, MUC-AMS) with BMI miles, and all that is needed is inventory on LH? I.e. will BMI sell me an award seat that has nothing to do with BD at all?
this may be a stupid question, but I'd rather ask here than talk to the ICC: Am I correct in assuming that I can book an LH flight (nothing special, MUC-AMS) with BMI miles, and all that is needed is inventory on LH? I.e. will BMI sell me an award seat that has nothing to do with BD at all?
Sep 7, 2009 | 8:21 am
#524
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Location: Berlin
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That said, unless these are just orphan miles that need to be used up, please think twice before redeeming them for something like MUC-AMS.
Sep 7, 2009 | 8:39 am
#525
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 410
Thanks.
Since I am not actively collecting with BMI I only have 14,000 stray miles. I need a one-way to Amsterdam, which would cost 4500 miles plus 30-40 EUR tax. This would put 4500 miles at about 100 EUR at current prices, which is not too bad - although of course I will look at earning & burning more miles on BMI..
Since I am not actively collecting with BMI I only have 14,000 stray miles. I need a one-way to Amsterdam, which would cost 4500 miles plus 30-40 EUR tax. This would put 4500 miles at about 100 EUR at current prices, which is not too bad - although of course I will look at earning & burning more miles on BMI..