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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by itsafugazi
Thanks for your help, its much appreciated. I am new to ANA, FT and now this output so any help or direction on how to read the classes available on these legs would be great as I havent seen these before
Stick around, you'll get the hang of it soon

O: First Class Award
I: Business Class Award
X: Economy Class Award

So Xn shows the number of economy seats available, with the exception of 9 which means 9 or more
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I haven't seen this particular output format before either but this thread in the Star Alliance forum might help.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...g-classes.html

Award booking classes are:

O = First Class
I = Business Class
X = Economy Class

The number which follows the booking class letter is the number of seats available .
THanks for the key and link, makes much more sense now
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by denCSA
Here you go:

[CODE]** BMI - AD ** BKK BANGKOK.TH 71 MO 07DEC 0000
2 TG 641 O2 I2 X0 /NRT 1 BKK 1045 1545 E0/346 7:00
[CODE]** BMI - AD ** CPH COPENHAGEN.DK 77 SA 12DEC 0000

2 TG 930 O2 I2 X4 /BKK CDG 1 0005 0645 E0/744
SK 566 I6 X4 /CDG 1 CPH 3 1110 1300 E0/M80 18:55
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This is great, thanks for your speedy help. Am I reading these right that F is available on both legs? Is there similar F availability on Tue 8th for the NRT - BKK and Sun 13th for BKK - CPH?

Appreciate all your help!
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by itsafugazi
Am I reading these right that F is available on both legs? Is there similar F availability on Tue 8th for the NRT - BKK
Yes, there is at least 1 F award seat available:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.1/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
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NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
BKK  Bangkok Int'l TH [VTBD]
TUE  08 Dec 2009 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TG         643     NRT   09:45     BKK   14:45     772      FS/  CS+  YS+
TG         641     NRT   10:45     BKK   15:45     346      FS+  CS+  YS-
NH         953     NRT   10:50     BKK   16:05     763      FS/  CS-  YS-
TG         677     NRT   17:15     BKK   22:15     744      FS-  CS+  YS+
NH         915     NRT   17:30     BKK   22:50     763      FS/  CS-  YS-
UA         881     NRT   18:35     BKK   23:45     CHG      FS+  CS-  YS-
NH         909     NRT   09:50     HKG   13:55     777      FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> TG     629     HKG   15:00     BKK   16:45     772      FS/  CS-  YS+
NH         1275    HND   20:30     HKG   00:30 +1  763      FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> TG     609     HKG   07:55 +1  BKK   12:45 +1  330      FS/  CS+  YS+
NH         141     HND   07:25     KIX   08:40     767      FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> TG     623     KIX   11:00     BKK   15:30     773      FS/  CS+  YS+
NH         3829    HND   21:45     KIX   22:55     320      FS+  CS+  YS+
 -> TG     673     KIX   00:30 +1  BKK   05:00 +1  773      FS/  CS+  YS+

Originally Posted by itsafugazi
and Sun 13th for BKK - CPH?
There is no F cabin on that route:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.1/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA]
Code:
BKK  Bangkok Int'l TH [VTBD]
CPH  Copenhagen DK [EKCH]
SUN  13 Dec 2009 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C      Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
SK         972     BKK   00:25     CPH   06:25     343      FS/  CS-  YS-
TG         950     BKK   00:50     CPH   06:35     747      FS/  CS-  YS+
TG         974     BKK   10:40     DME   16:50     777      FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SK     735     SVO   15:50 +1  CPH   16:30 +1  319      FS/  CS+  YS+
TG         960     BKK   00:45     STO   06:05     747      FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> SK     1419    STO   10:00     CPH   11:10     738      FS/  CS-  YS+
TG         954     BKK   00:35     OSL   06:45     777      FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SK     1455    OSL   10:05     CPH   11:15     EQV      FS/  CS-  YS+
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 3:39 pm
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Can someone please do my monthly check for availability:

LAX-ZRX-MAN 5th Jan 10 for 2 in F on LX

Currently booked SFO-LHR on UA but a timechange gives new opportunities

Muchas gracias!
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 3:52 pm
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Nothing showing in F on LX41. It's offering up alternatives in F from JFK and ORD on the new A333 service
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by Tiger_lily
Nothing showing in F on LX41. It's offering up alternatives in F from JFK and ORD on the new A333 service
Thanks Tiger_lily - I tried to see if I could do a SFO-ORD or JFK but the timings are a bit of a pain. Currently I am booked on UA 930 direct to LHR which won't be as nice as LX but it is direct and I can be home from London in about 3hrs.

I might see if I can change my parents' booking though as they are currently LGA-BOS-ZRH-MAN due to availability when I booked in Feb. JFK-ZRH-MAN on the 330 would be nice for them, and no messing around in Boston.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 12:32 am
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Slightly OT for this thread but I didn't want to open a new one. If there is a better place for it Mods please feel free to move my post.

I'm checking ANA on my own so I'm good on that one but would need advise on routing. Basically it is a simple Zone 7 to Zone 7 one way in Biz but via SIN. I'm looking at BKK - SIN (stopover) - DPS

Is this routing permissable or will they come up with the most direct route argument trying to push me onto the once daily TG flight? *A schedule shows BKK-SIN-DPS as a valid routing.

I basically want to optimize my award and not just get BKK-SIN but have something like a 6 months stopover in SIN (where I live) and then go SIN-DPS for a Bali vacation in June. I realize that I will have to accept SIN-DPS in Y as SQ does not seem to release any C seats to BD or other *A partners but that's okay.

Return DPS-SIN would be done using a one way award in Y with Kris Flyer miles.

Alternatively I would go to CGK instead of DPS if I can't find seats and would hope that if DPS is okay then BKK - SIN (stopover) - CGK should be too? Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 1:21 pm
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All, have been lurking / doing research on my own for some time now. Looking for suggestions, alternatives for a trip I am planning next year.

Trip Dates - 9/13/2010 - 9/29/2010 (give or take a day for flexibility)

Ideally looking to go from ORD to CDG and fly back from Spain (BCN or MAD). I have had difficulty finding any available seats from Spain back to the states.

Ideally would like to fly business. Using ANA, I found flights for flying into and departing from CDG on AC in business.

ORD -> CDG
8/13 (FR) AC520 Chicago(ORD) Montreal
15:45 18:47 E75
8/13 (FR) AC870 Montreal Paris(CDG)
19:50 08:30 +1 77W

CDG -> ORD
8/29 (SU) AC885 Paris(CDG) Montreal
11:30 13:15 763
8/29 (SU) AC521 Montreal Chicago(ORD)
17:35 18:52 E7

Another item I would will to make sure I am right on is the number of miles that will be used. For Zone 1 - 3 it indicates 45,000 (x1.5 for business). I am understanding this to mean I will need 33,750 miles from ORD -> CDG for business cabin. Is this right?

Thanks for any and all help in advance!

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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by sparco
All, have been lurking / doing research on my own for some time now. Looking for suggestions, alternatives for a trip I am planning next year.

Trip Dates - 9/13/2010 - 9/29/2010 (give or take a day for flexibility)

Ideally looking to go from ORD to CDG and fly back from Spain (BCN or MAD). I have had difficulty finding any available seats from Spain back to the states.

Ideally would like to fly business. Using ANA, I found flights for flying into and departing from CDG on AC in business.

ORD -> CDG
8/13 (FR) AC520 Chicago(ORD) Montreal
15:45 18:47 E75
8/13 (FR) AC870 Montreal Paris(CDG)
19:50 08:30 +1 77W

CDG -> ORD
8/29 (SU) AC885 Paris(CDG) Montreal
11:30 13:15 763
8/29 (SU) AC521 Montreal Chicago(ORD)
17:35 18:52 E7

Another item I would will to make sure I am right on is the number of miles that will be used. For Zone 1 - 3 it indicates 45,000 (x1.5 for business). I am understanding this to mean I will need 33,750 miles from ORD -> CDG for business cabin. Is this right?

Thanks for any and all help in advance!

- Chris
Outbound LH and LO are also available in addition to AC:

Code:
3   LH 431  O4 I6 X8             /ORD 1 FRA 1  1545    0655+1E0/744           
    LH4212  I6 X8                /FRA 1 CDG 1  0850+1  1000+1E0/321      11:15
4   LH 431  O2 I6 X8             /ORD 1 FRA 1  1545    0655+1E0/744           
    LH4214  I6 X8                /FRA 1 CDG 1  0945+1  1055+1E0/733      12:10
5   LH 431  O4 I6 XL             /ORD 1 FRA 1  1545    0655+1E0/744           
    LH4218  I6 XL                /FRA 1 CDG 1  1210+1  1320+1E0/320      14:35
6   LH 431  O3 I6 X8             /ORD 1 FRA 1  1545    0655+1E0/744           
    LH4220  I6 X8                /FRA 1 CDG 1  1330+1  1440+1E0/733      15:55
4   LO 002  I2 X4                /ORD 5 WAW I  1725    0950+1E0/763           
    LO 329  I4 X4                /WAW I CDG 1  1300+1  1530+1E0/ER4      15:05
For the return, I see a lot of availability from MAD :

Code:
** BMI - AD ** ORD O'HARE INTL.USIL                          358 WE 29SEP 0000 
 1   LH4417  I6 X8                /MAD 1 FRA 1  0620    0855  E0/321           
     LH 430  O3 I6 X8             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1035    1230  E0/744      13:10
 2   LH4417  I6 X5                /MAD 1 FRA 1  0620    0855  E0/321           
     LH 432  O1 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      20:10
 3CL*LH4435  I3 X8                /MAD 1 DUS    0640    0905  E0/CR7           
     LH 436  O2 I3 X8             /DUS   ORD 5  1135    1345  E0/343      14:05
 4   LH4429  I6 X9                /MAD 1 MUC 2  0740    1010  E0/320           
     LH 434  O1 I6 X9             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      17:35
 5   JK 125  IL X4                /MAD 2 FRA 1  0905    1145  E0/320           
     LH 432  O3 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      17:25
 6   LH4419  I6 X5                /MAD 1 FRA 1  1040    1315  E0/320           
     LH 432  O3 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      15:50
 1CL*LH4421  I6 X6                /MAD 1 MUC 2  1230    1500  E0/CR9           
     LH 434  O1 I6 X6             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      12:45
And from BCN:

Code:
** BMI - AD ** ORD O'HARE INTL.USIL                          358 WE 29SEP 0000 
 1CL*LH4483  I5 X9                /BCN 1 MUC 2  0610    0815  E0/CR9           
     LH 434  O1 I5 X9             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      19:05
 2   LH4465  I6 X8                /BCN 1 FRA 1  0655    0905  E0/321           
     LH 430  O4 I6 X8             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1035    1230  E0/744      12:35
 3   LH4465  I6 X5                /BCN 1 FRA 1  0655    0905  E0/321           
     LH 432  O2 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      19:35
 4   LH4485  I3 X9                /BCN 1 MUC 2  0820    1020  E0/320           
     LH 434  OL I3 X9             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      16:55
 5   LH4463  I6 X5                /BCN 1 FRA 1  0820    1030  E0/320           
     LH 432  O2 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      18:10
 6   JK 135  I4 X4                /BCN 1 MUC 2  1030    1235  E0/717           
     LH 434  O4 I9 X9             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      14:45
 1   LH4451  I6 X5                /BCN 1 FRA 1  1040    1250  E0/321           
     LH 432  O3 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      15:50
 2   LH4475  I9 X9                /BCN 1 MUC 2  1200    1400  E0/321           
     LH 434  O2 I9 X9             /MUC 2 ORD 5  1540    1815  E0/346      13:15
 3   LH4453  I6 X5                /BCN 1 FRA 1  1240    1450  E0/321           
     LH 432  O3 I6 X5             /FRA 1 ORD 5  1715    1930  E0/333      13:50
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 3:06 pm
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by demue
I basically want to optimize my award and not just get BKK-SIN but have something like a 6 months stopover in SIN (where I live) and then go SIN-DPS for a Bali vacation in June.
There was a thread on here last week that mentioned something about 3 months being the longest for a stopover.
As the routing is showing as valid I cannot see the problem with it however your stopover would need to be reduced. Try asking for the flights individually and that may help but with a 6 month 'stopover' they are likely to count it as 2 redemptions
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 5:34 pm
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I know it's a long shot but due to flight times being changed by TK I'm trying to look at alternative routings.

Looking for 4 biz seats from MAN - BKK between 11/12 - 13/12, checked as many routings as I can think of using ANA but would appreciate any further insight, Swiss maybe?

Anyway really appreciate any help.

Sorry should mention already with TK on 12/12.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by garyn
I know it's a long shot but due to flight times being changed by TK I'm trying to look at alternative routings.
Nothing on Swiss I'm afraid. Nothing via the usual suspects either, so it may need to be a creative routing via the likes of DEL or BOM if you really need to change the flights.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by caz312
There was a thread on here last week that mentioned something about 3 months being the longest for a stopover.
As the routing is showing as valid I cannot see the problem with it however your stopover would need to be reduced. Try asking for the flights individually and that may help but with a 6 month 'stopover' they are likely to count it as 2 redemptions
Thanks for the info. yes I also just heard about the 3-months rule. Bummer. Oh well will ahve to play around with dates then. Thanks.
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